krustyballer16 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Trying to gauge what and how I need to order these when they're ready. Hoping the prototype set is done in the next week or 2 **fingers crossed** I'll most likely sell these only as kits. With the exception of possibly the steering box braces and the front crossmember piece I think I'm gonna go try for $650 for 10ga swb and lwb and $750 for 3/16 swb and lwb SHIPPED! Let me know what you guys think and vote! (Theres a poll to vote. I can't get it to show up on Tapatalk to go to the full site to view and vote) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 What part(s) of the frame would these stiffeners stiffen? Weld-in or bolt-on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyballer16 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 What part(s) of the frame would these stiffeners stiffen? Weld-in or bolt-on? Front to rear including steering box spacer area and front crossmember. Weld in Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989commanche Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 What would you guess the weight difference between 10ga and 3/16” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyballer16 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, 1989commanche said: What would you guess the weight difference between 10ga and 3/16” 25-35 lbs a kit or so I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 that's it? seems like 3/16" is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89 MJ Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Why didn’t you make them bolt on? I for one would be more interested if they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 that's an interesting thought. Though I'd imagine it's because in order to gain a significant amount of strength, they need to be thoroughly integrated into the frame and that comes from loooooooots of contact. bolts would not be anywhere near as strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyballer16 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, Pete M said: that's it? seems like 3/16" is the way to go. 27 lbs actually. Well sorta I was missing some 3/16 pieces and only had em in 10 ga and half of each set was lwb and swb skid I'd say closer to 35 lbs difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989commanche Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, krustyballer16 said: 25-35 lbs a kit or so I'd say. Ok not so bad what do you think a set weighs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyballer16 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 Ok not so bad what do you think a set weighs? Roughly 81-105 lbs. I'll know exactly weight when the newest set is cut out. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyballer16 Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 10 ga SWB weighs 72 lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989commanche Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 So these are going to be clamp lightly and massage to fit with a 5 lb dead blow whammer? Then weld up? Sounds like fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyballer16 Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 So these are going to be clamp lightly and massage to fit with a 5 lb dead blow whammer? Then weld up? Sounds like fun. Hoping it's just clamp and weld. Lol. Trying to make it so you don't have to beat and form them yourself to fit.They will definitely need clamped a little because I'm having the legs broke at 91° so they're not overbroke like all the bends on the competition's pieces...Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyballer16 Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 Nobody else is voting? I'm wanting to order at least 10 sets of these this first round. Thata 10 sets total, or 12 if it comes out to a close tie on all 4 options. But I'm asking exclusively on here first before I post to Facebook this weekend because I want you guys to get first dibs at buying the first round... Lwb 10ga weighs 82 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I mean, I can vote if you want, but I can't buy a set. go to the faceybook. spread the word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brusselsprout420 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I can't buy either, but I'd vote for 10ga. 3/16" will take some very skilled welding given the bigger difference in metal thickness from stiffener to frame metal. I've researched the topic a lot and it seems like thinner is better. The added weight and welding challenge doesn't out weigh a minimal gain in strength. Grant it, it depends on what the end user's goals are where 3/16" might be needed for a more extreme build. MY opinion is that 10 or even 12ga is sufficient to reduce flex and tied armor into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyballer16 Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 I can't buy either, but I'd vote for 10ga. 3/16" will take some very skilled welding given the bigger difference in metal thickness from stiffener to frame metal. I've researched the topic a lot and it seems like thinner is better. The added weight and welding challenge doesn't out weigh a minimal gain in strength. Grant it, it depends on what the end user's goals are where 3/16" might be needed for a more extreme build. MY opinion is that 10 or even 12ga is sufficient to reduce flex and tied armor into. I've got the same opinion. I don't see my self ever installing any since I don't have a wheeling mj, but I see it the same way. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I have some bonus money burning a hole in my pocket. I voted for 3/16" SWB. I'd probably be just as happy with 10ga. If that makes a difference on what you want to order for the first round. As long as it fits my SWB, I'll buy it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnkyboy Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Personally I only use 3/16" on builds, the stiffeners/unit frame are the foundation that you will build your Jeep off of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyballer16 Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 Personally I only use 3/16" on builds, the stiffeners/unit frame are the foundation that you will build your Jeep off of. Ya, youd be a good person to get an opinion from. I'd trust it. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Yeah, I think 3/16 would be better for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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