Rokhound Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Ok here is the deal guy’s if you are sitting in the seat I can steer to the left just fine. It makes a turn just like it is suppose to but if I turn to the right it will not turn as tight as to the left WHY?? I mean when I am out on the trail this is a huge pain in the butt I have to back up turn back up turn and then go. What gives. Any body have a clue what I need to adjust in my steering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 I would have someone turn the wheel and see if it's binding or if it's going all the way to the steering stop. How big of a difference is it? Could your steering wheel be off by one full turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldjeep Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Did you lift the jeep and not adjust the draglink? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokhound Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 Did you lift the jeep and not adjust the draglink? no i did not I guess that is some thing i sould do also pete I think you might be right as well the steering wheel could be out of wack to :nuts: And yes it is a big deal it is a pain in the a$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldjeep Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Did you lift the jeep and not adjust the draglink? no i did not I guess that is some thing i sould do also pete I think you might be right as well the steering wheel could be out of wack to :nuts: And yes it is a big deal it is a pain in the a$$ If that's the case, put the front end on jackstands. Lock the steering column with the wheel pointing straight and adjust the draglink until the wheels are straight. That will get you back to where you are supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokhound Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 If that's the case, put the front end on jackstands. Lock the steering column with the wheel pointing straight and adjust the draglink until the wheels are straight. That will get you back to where you are supposed to be. Not to be a smart a$$ and maybe i read this wrong but if the wheel are straight and lock in to place how am I going to adjust the drag link until the wheels are straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldjeep Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 If that's the case, put the front end on jackstands. Lock the steering column with the wheel pointing straight and adjust the draglink until the wheels are straight. That will get you back to where you are supposed to be. Not to be a smart a$$ and maybe i read this wrong but if the wheel are straight and lock in to place how am I going to adjust the drag link until the wheels are straight Lock the column with the STEERING WHEEL pointing straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 The way I see it its one of three things. 1) The steering box is not centered as Pete is describing. 2) The stops on the knuckles are set differently. 3) Something is binding/bent. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokhound Posted September 23, 2007 Author Share Posted September 23, 2007 Lock the column with the STEERING WHEEL pointing straight ok thanks But i am leaning towrd the steering box being not centered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted September 23, 2007 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Lock the column with the STEERING WHEEL pointing straight ok thanks But i am leaning towrd the steering box being not centered ... pretty sure they're talkin about the same thing... basically since you lifted the truck, the drag link is pulled up higher and because its a y-link the steering geometry got fubar-d so when you adjust the drag link the steering wheel and the tires will be pointing straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokhound Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 ok how do you recenter the box with the steering wheel straight my pitman arm is to the right about 1/2" to 1" off of center :oops: so yeah i would say it needs to be recenter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOMJ87 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Adjust the draglink and recheck it. You should be sitting right then. Both the above explanations are refering to the same thing. And if it wasnt adjusted when the truck was lifted then its way off and with the steering truly staright IE linkages and wheel the tires will point way to the left. Hope you get it right good luck. Cole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokhound Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 yeah i am lost but i will get this figured out :eek: :oops: :cheers: :beerhead: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOMJ87 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Give me one min i will draw a pic and post it. Cole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOMJ87 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 OK so here we go. The blue bar is the bar you need to be worried with. The red area is where the prob will be created. Now stay with me. If you raise the truck and don't extend the bar the angle in the bars increases(red area) causeing the lower bar (green) to pull closer to the drivers side. Now that the angle is off you are messing up all the stuff on the lickage. since your tires are pulled further over towards so when you have straight tires the arm will not be staright and already be using up stroke for your right hand turn. Throw the MJ on some stand and go to adjusting and see if that don't fix the prob. If not then we now have more to explain. Hope this helps. Cole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokhound Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 thanks cole for your time I understand what need to happen I am just going to play with it tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfpdm Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Just so I got it right in my own head I drew some basic cheats. This is what it should look like. 1 wheels strait 2 steering wheel strait 3 pitman arm strait (parallel with steering box.) Now if the wheels are strait and the steering wheel is strait but the pitman arm is off. You need to adjust the draglink. Hope this helps because until I put it down on paper it wasn't clicking. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Now if the wheels are strait and the steering wheel is strait but the pitman arm is off. You need to adjust the draglink. Hope this helps because until I put it down on paper it wasn't clicking. :cheers: Wrong. Adjusting the drag link does not change the relationship of the pitman arm to the steering wheel. The drag link only changes the relationship of the road wheels to the pitman arm. If the pitman arm is not straight but the steering wheel is, someone has had the steering wheel off and didn't install it straight. The steering wheel should be straight when the pitman arms is straight, and vise versa. It sounds like you need to pull your steering wheel and re-center it. It might be best to have a front end shop do this, to be sure it's correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfpdm Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Wrong. Adjusting the drag link does not change the relationship of the pitman arm to the steering wheel. The drag link only changes the relationship of the road wheels to the pitman arm. If the pitman arm is not straight but the steering wheel is, someone has had the steering wheel off and didn't install it straight. The steering wheel should be straight when the pitman arms is straight, and vise versa. It sounds like you need to pull your steering wheel and re-center it. It might be best to have a front end shop do this, to be sure it's correct. :fool: Doh I used the wrong strait too. I was going to ask if the steering wheel could be put on wrong but I didn't think it could be. My thinking with above was that if the steering wheel although straight, was a full turn off when the draglink was put back on. Or is that even possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokhound Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 those pics are almost correct for the most part. I think the plan is to rip the whole thing off and but on a ZJ V-8 steering and start over. :D Well that sounded good but not going to happen. What I am going to do: -center the tires -disconnect the pitman arm move steering wheel to center by finding center of the steering box and market center on there so I no where my pit man arm goes -Then I am going to put my pitman arm center on that mark -Then making sure that the axle is center with the truck Then adjust track bar(if needed) and attach draglink In my head this should work :nuts: O and then take it to the nearest shop to have an alignments done to make sure every thing is ok :popcorn: What do you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86FUBAR Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 if ur gona take it to the alignment shop then just tell them to center the wheel for ya that would be easiest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokhound Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 yeah but the more work they do the more they like to charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86FUBAR Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 What I am going to do: -center the tires -disconnect the pitman arm move steering wheel to center by finding center of the steering box and market center on there so I no where my pit man arm goes -Then I am going to put my pitman arm center on that mark -Then making sure that the axle is center with the truck Then adjust track bar(if needed) and attach draglink o and u shouldnt have to do all of that, just point the wheels straight and loosen the lock coller on the drag link and adjust till the pitman arm is straight by using ur educated eye and checking the steering wheel. remember its not rocket science :brows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86FUBAR Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 yeah but the more work they do the more they like to charge. then call and ask them if it makes a difference but none the less what ur trying to do should only take like 5 minutes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 http://gojeep.willyshotrod.com/HowtoAlignment.htm see "steering wheel adjustment" pretty far down the page. Go-Jeep is master-explainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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