MrBill61 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Replace the crank sensor position replace the ignition module replace the coil pack replaced ECM.also time dead on. still no spark need help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Have you got power to the coil What I'm wondering is if you're failing to get power to the run circuit at the ignition switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, MrBill61 said: Replace the crank sensor position replace the ignition module replace the coil pack replaced ECM.also time dead on. still no spark need help How do you know the timing is dead on if there's no spark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill61 Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 First thing I checked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ωhm Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Does the fuel injector dump fuel during CRANK? CPS related question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill61 Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 Yes it has a brand new fuel pump on it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, MrBill61 said: First thing I checked Impossible. You can't check the timing if there's no spark, and you said you have no spark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill61 Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 I literally look to see where the was point at the rotor make sure the crank was on top dead center and make sure the distributor point was a little Vance that's how I check timing . Been working on cars since I was 7 years old and that's how my dad told me to put things in time so that's how I check the time 57 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill61 Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 Far as the coil no power to it no power to the ignition module and no power to cps.It does crank over . I'll have to buy new switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 10 hours ago, MrBill61 said: I literally look to see where the was point at the rotor make sure the crank was on top dead center and make sure the distributor point was a little Vance that's how I check timing . Been working on cars since I was 7 years old and that's how my dad told me to put things in time so that's how I check the time 57 years old Well, I'm 74 years old and I was working on cars before you were born. The way you describe may get the timing close (sort of), but it won't get it "dead on." That said, if there's no power to the CPS or coil, there's obviously something amiss. But I would suggest trying to figure out where the problem is before you start throwing parts at it. Was it running and suddenly stopped, or is this a vehicle that's new to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill61 Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 yes ran and in time was great then my son park that night before. had this for last 10 yrs went fire it few days later. It for start for few seconds shut off . Then try to restart would not start .Then time chain was change about 3yrs ago.this truck is only use ounce or twice a myth.Also the way I time it 3 yrs gotrunnig it ran for last 3yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dan Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Are you ESL? This is going to be incredibly difficult to help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill61 Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 Some people o this are very rude . You asking for help and then they you treat like this. You got very rude people on this site .Big Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomeizter Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 MrBill61, start from the bottom with a fresh mind, check for power and good ground(s) for the ignition system. Ensure the rotor in the dizzy actually turns and that there is no moisture in there. Seasoned gearheads sometimes get their butt kicked by simple issues that are easily missed. Come back with the result, good day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 is "run" power getting past the ignition switch? that seems to be another common issue now that our trucks are 30 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill61 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 Update What I ended up doing was replace the starter switch check the check the whole wiring harness no cracks no shorts no bad wires nothing all good in Iron Horse replaced the crank position sensor for the second time and the third time finally the 4th one worked and now runs again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, MrBill61 said: Update What I ended up doing was replace the starter switch check the check the whole wiring harness no cracks no shorts no bad wires nothing all good in Iron Horse replaced the crank position sensor for the second time and the third time finally the 4th one worked and now runs again If you had replaced the CPS with a genuine Mopar unit instead of using aftermarket junk you would only have to do it once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill61 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 2 hours ago, HOrnbrod said: They were the jeep dealer they only had 5 in stock brought 2 from them then went after market .Sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 49 minutes ago, MrBill61 said: They were the jeep dealer they only had 5 in stock brought 2 from them then went after market .Sir Alright.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, MrBill61 said: They were the jeep dealer they only had 5 in stock brought 2 from them then went after market .Sir I'm interested in knowing what they sold you did you happen to photograph the package if not why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill61 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 No I didn't think I had to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Okay well you're claiming a dealer had five cps's in stock and two of the five were bad the other three we don't know about only the two you bought but we have no idea what you bought and I'd like to know I'm assuming you have a remix how I dealer had five cps's in stock when nobody else can find them And we have no idea what it is that you bought And yes I photo document every part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVPete Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Great that you figured this out MrBill61. When we install a new part we make a very big assumption that it is good. So when we get a new part that is bad, we tend to rule out the part we replaced as the problem. That makes things double-tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 5 hours ago, MrBill61 said: No I didn't think I had to Did they look like or read like these? Siemens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBill61 Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 Yes ,Yes why you asking this .It's running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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