Griff04 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Wasn’t sure where to start this thread?? Anyway, new to the forum but not Jeeps, I guess you could call me a Jeepaholic!!! Been building CJS for a few years with a couple of YJs thrown in. My last one was A 1982 CJ8 Scrambler which I sold a couple of months ago and have been bored to death since so I’m looking for something to get my hands dirty again. Always been interested in the Comanches so I started looking a couple of weeks ago. My only problem is I’m not quite sure of an entry price point on them. I’ve seen them from $500 to $10,000. Of course I’m not doing a $10k by no means. I found one one on Craigslist for $2500 which appears to have good “bones” but unsure of the price on it. I had the guy send me pics of the floor pans and frame and it looks clean. I’m hoping some of you Comanche experts can give me some advice. All input appreciated. The CL listing is here: https://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/d/1988-jeep-comanche/6586711729.html I’m attaching a pic of my recent CJ8 build. I don’t think I want to take the Comanche this far though. I really want to drive back and forth to the hunting camp and drag the jon boat to the river. Thanks in advance, Griff04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 35 minutes ago, Griff04 said: I found one one on Craigslist for $2500 which appears to have good “bones” but unsure of the price on it. I had the guy send me pics of the floor pans and frame and it looks clean. I’m hoping some of you Comanche experts can give me some advice. All input appreciated. The CL listing is here: https://fortsmith.craigslist.org/cto/d/1988-jeep-comanche/6586711729.html If you didn't buy it, it looks like it's gone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff04 Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, HOrnbrod said: If you didn't buy it, it looks like it's gone.. We agreed on the $2500, I told him consider it sold and sending him a certified check on Monday. Here’ a couple of pics of it: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Looks like you done good Griff. Congrats and welcome to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 yeah, looks like a solid platform to customize to your liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff04 Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, HOrnbrod said: Looks like you done good Griff. Congrats and welcome to the club. Thanks, glad to be here. Sorta anxious to get it here and start checking out. Griff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Yeah, good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff04 Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 Still trying to research the Jeep, considering the different models of MJs is there anything unique, good or bad, about the Pioneer models that I need to know?? Thx, Griff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbscomanche Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 good deal for a clean looking truck. but that scrambler though that's next on my build list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff04 Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 25 minutes ago, crumbscomanche said: good deal for a clean looking truck. but that scrambler though that's next on my build list. That was a 3 year build on the Scrambler, it was like a love/hate relationship. Started out with just a simple “cleanup” to have something to take to the woods and river, turned out to be an “ornament” that was just too nice to abuse. Sold it to a fellow that was going to put it in his collection of Mopars, go figure! The Comanche build will be totally different, it will be “Used”!!!! Griff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kryptronic Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 5/13/2018 at 8:41 AM, Griff04 said: is there anything unique, good or bad, about the Pioneer models that I need to know?? I've got a 91 Pioneer. Welcome to the club. From my research on the Pioneer... Pioneer was considered the deluxe trim level. In years that both the Pioneer and Chief were offered, Chief would have been considered the only higher level trim than Pioneer. (Inaccurate, Corrected) They were considered the offroad model, and often were optioned with the skid plate package. I am not 100% sure on this, but I think most Pioneers were 4WD. They usually had the deluxe interior, and came standard with items like bumpers and alloy wheels. They had two different decal packages: Renix Pioneers are dressed with hockey stick stripes; and HOs with three wavy stripes. Other than that, info is sparse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff04 Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 22 minutes ago, kryptronic said: I've got a 91 Pioneer. Welcome to the club. From my research on the Pioneer... Pioneer was considered the deluxe trim level. In years that both the Pioneer and Chief were offered, Chief would have been considered the only higher level trim than Pioneer. They were considered the offroad model, and often were optioned with the skid plate package. I am not 100% sure on this, but I think most Pioneers were 4WD. They had the deluxe interior, and came standard with items like bumpers and alloy wheels. They had two different decal packages: Renix Pioneers are dressed with hockey stick stripes; and HOs with three wavy stripes. Other than that, info is sparse. So I keep hearing about Renix and HOs, trying to understand the difference. What are the pros and cons between them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kryptronic Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, Griff04 said: So I keep hearing about Renix and HOs, trying to understand the difference. What are the pros and cons between them? Renix would refer to MJs built 86-90 using electronics and systems designed by Renault and Bendix. 91-92 MJs were built by Chrystler using their High Output platform. They are two very different animals, and while many love their Renix MJs, there is no question HO is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff04 Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, kryptronic said: Renix would refer to MJs built 86-90 using electronics and systems designed by Renault and Bendix. 91-92 MJs were built by Chrystler using their High Output platform. They are two very different animals, and while many love their Renix MJs, there is no question HO is better. So I’m going to ask a stupid question, with it being an 88 I’m assuming it has the Renix, is there any “noticeable visual” differences in looking at a Renix and RO engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kryptronic Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 It's an 88 so it is a Renix. Yes, there are many differences, and you can tell by just looking at them. Take a look at a pic of an HO engine bay vs yours. Luckily for you, most members here have Renix models, so mostly everyone can readily help you if you have an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff04 Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 Thanks, appreciate all the replies. GriffSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ωhm Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Here's a couple RENIX publications you might find useful. RENIX_MPI 88 MJ ELECTRICAL MANUAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff04 Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Ωhm said: Here's a couple RENIX publications you might find useful. RENIX_MPI 88 MJ ELECTRICAL MANUAL Thanks, I’ll check them out. Griff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 6 hours ago, kryptronic said: I've got a 91 Pioneer. Welcome to the club. From my research on the Pioneer... Pioneer was considered the deluxe trim level. In years that both the Pioneer and Chief were offered, Chief would have been considered the only higher level trim than Pioneer. They were considered the offroad model, and often were optioned with the skid plate package. I am not 100% sure on this, but I think most Pioneers were 4WD. They had the deluxe interior, and came standard with items like bumpers and alloy wheels. They had two different decal packages: Renix Pioneers are dressed with hockey stick stripes; and HOs with three wavy stripes. Other than that, info is sparse. Pioneers were middle of the road, 87-92. Chief was a bit above it. the Eliminator and Laredo were top tiers in the years they were offered. 4wd and skids were options on any trim level, but the majority of MJs of any trim were 2wd. which is a shame but that made them cheaper I gurss. My 88 was a 2wd Pio with vinyl buckets and the 3/4 gauge cluster. pure middle of the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Being a Pioneer doesn't mean much. They went from pretty much base models to just a notch or so below an Eliminator. Just depends on what you ordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff04 Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 Looking to get a FSM on the Comanche....has anyone used the following, it’s e-downloadable, price is reasonable, as long as it’s accurate I don’t have a problem with it. https://www.google.com/search?q=1988+jeep+comanche+factory+service+manual&sa=X&biw=414&bih=606&tbs=vw:l,ss:44&tbm=shop&prmd=sivn&srpd=1329432256044475527&prds=num:1,of:1,epd:1329432256044475527,paur:ClkAsKraX4Ii7tBgiZLrxrPSpgdCixXcdj4mS5fdt7uHJZfcecLHoVw4Ee3axk4sLOuCOTIQcG2v3aw7pExfYMQ2ZHThp5o5s3izKNJ_XZWTKmNmNMO9_HMSFhIZAFPVH70f4mP2tagHkhgZf3fb1R7uTcriHQ&ved=0ahUKEwjY6JjH64bbAhVHhuAKHcr0CNIQgjYIgQQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff04 Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Pete M said: Thats good stuff...will help out tremendously. Thx, Griff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff04 Posted June 30, 2018 Author Share Posted June 30, 2018 JK shock upgrade. Did the JK shock upgrade today. Referenced the following thread, excellent write-up by jerpderp. Overall went well, pressing the bushings back in was the biggest PIA Found a set of take-offs on EBay and got them for $65. Bought the pin eliminator and bushings off Amazon. All in probably $120. Very happy with outcome, much better ride and definitely handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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