GirsMJ86 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 I found some tow hooks at TSC the other day, almost identical to factory from what little I have seen of factory ones. What I need from you guys that have front hooks are pics. I need to see what the bracket looks like and where/how the hooks/brackets are mounted. I can't get my hands on any factory hooks or brackets so I thought I could take pics of the factory ones and make some close to them that would work with these hooks. Here are the ones I bought: http://www.reeseprod.com/fitguides/details.asp?ProdID=63030&dlr=0 There are also chrome ones (TSC didn't have or I would have bought these) http://www.reeseprod.com/fitguides/details.asp?ProdID=63029&dlr=0 So all you out there with factory hooks, help me out here. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeeperjohnfromPA Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 I've got a used set, a little bit rusted, but should work fine. You'll just need to get the nuts and bolts to install them. I'll let ya have them, for $15 plus shipping. Let me know, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirsMJ86 Posted August 9, 2007 Author Share Posted August 9, 2007 I've got a used set, a little bit rusted, but should work fine. You'll just need to get the nuts and bolts to install them. I'll let ya have them, for $15 plus shipping. Let me know, John Brackets too or just hooks? Because I already bought those hooks, but if I can get a set of factory ones with brackets I'm sure I can return em. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORCA Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 I've got some factory hooks, no brakets. PM me if you want them. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Factory hooks on factory brackets: Image Not Found Image Not Found L-braces that tie the brackets into the lower radiator support and installed brackets: Image Not Found Image Not Found Image Not Found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 I found some tow hooks at TSC the other day, almost identical to factory from what little I have seen of factory ones. What I need from you guys that have front hooks are pics. I need to see what the bracket looks like and where/how the hooks/brackets are mounted. I can't get my hands on any factory hooks or brackets so I thought I could take pics of the factory ones and make some close to them that would work with these hooks. Here are the ones I bought: http://www.reeseprod.com/fitguides/details.asp?ProdID=63030&dlr=0 There are also chrome ones (TSC didn't have or I would have bought these) http://www.reeseprod.com/fitguides/details.asp?ProdID=63029&dlr=0 So all you out there with factory hooks, help me out here. Alex I have a whole box of chrome tow hooks. Specs for these are 1/2" holes 1-1/2" apart. Work just fine w. the factory brackets. PM me if you want a set Alex. Image Not Found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 i HAD the rusty's towhooks and brackets and they did awesome... set-up almost exactly like that factory one, runs back along the frame but they got fubar-ed when i smacked an accord at 25mph. however they saved the entire front end of my truck from any damage... they took full impact and bent/broke a LITTLE bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirsMJ86 Posted August 10, 2007 Author Share Posted August 10, 2007 Jeff, those pics were exactly what I was looking for. Looks like I am going to be busy making some custom brackets. Unless I can track down a set of factory ones, might try that first. hornbrod, PM sent. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjbliley Posted August 10, 2007 Share Posted August 10, 2007 Keep looking for them in the JY. They apear every so often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rverjeeper Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 At http://www.jeeperz-creeperz.com I found "XJ Front Tow Hook Kit" for $73. http://www.jeeperz-creeperz.com/front-hook-p-6752.html?osCsid=412f9219257e00599d35a650f7dc07e5 According to the Jeep parts manual, the Comanche, Wagoneer. and Cherokee use the same bracket and hooks. I just recently got an '88 Comanche Laredo 4x4 on the road and am looking to install a set of front hooks. The illustration on the Jeeperz-Creeperz website looks simular to the photos in this thread. Anyone ever try the "Cherokee" brackets on a Comanchee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 There is no difference between "Cherokee" brackets and "Comanche" brackets. Keystone Automotive used to offer XJ/MJ tow hook brackets. They were near duplicates of the originals, except that don't have the second set of holes to set the brackets forward 4" for the hidden winch option -- which nobody ever uses, so you'll never miss it. If you dig deep, a LOT of the after-market body parts places have these same brackets, and they're CHEAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEAD_NOT_FOLLOW Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Don't get anything but c4x4 brackets. Everything else does not have the side supports and WILL bend if pulled via the side at all. http://motionoffroad.com/catalog/index. ... ucts_id=90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisty Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Don't get anything but c4x4 brackets. Everything else does not have the side supports and WILL bend if pulled via the side at all. http://motionoffroad.com/catalog/index. ... ucts_id=90 X2!! I love my C4X4 brackets/hooks. I have bent them slighty, but thats just from hitting rocks with them. I'd buy them again if I had to choose again. Great (cheaper) alternative to a full bumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicofuentes0224 Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Don't get anything but c4x4 brackets. Everything else does not have the side supports and WILL bend if pulled via the side at all. http://motionoffroad.com/catalog/index. ... ucts_id=90 X2!! I love my C4X4 brackets/hooks. I have bent them slighty, but thats just from hitting rocks with them. I'd buy them again if I had to choose again. Great (cheaper) alternative to a full bumper. So then you can't use a bumper with c4x4 brackets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92comanche4x4 Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 here's some i found on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 14720&rd=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroader461 Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 i got my factory brackets and hooks for free from my buddy...now i just need to find the "L" brackets :chillin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEAD_NOT_FOLLOW Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 Don't get anything but c4x4 brackets. Everything else does not have the side supports and WILL bend if pulled via the side at all. http://motionoffroad.com/catalog/index. ... ucts_id=90 X2!! I love my C4X4 brackets/hooks. I have bent them slighty, but thats just from hitting rocks with them. I'd buy them again if I had to choose again. Great (cheaper) alternative to a full bumper. So then you can't use a bumper with c4x4 brackets? Yes you can use any factory bumper and 95% of any aftermarket bumpers with the C4x4 brackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEAD_NOT_FOLLOW Posted May 1, 2008 Share Posted May 1, 2008 here's some i found on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 14720&rd=1 Those don't tie into the rear good enough for my liking. I just don't think that the mounting setup is the best. They need the rear frame tie-in that goes all the way threw like others (c4x4 and factory ones) have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rverjeeper Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Thanks for the info. Looks like the c4x4 brackets w/ D-Rings are the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackel18 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Thanks for the info. Looks like the c4x4 brackets w/ D-Rings are the way to go. just ordered a set from jeepin outfitters thanks for the info guys :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Those don't tie into the rear good enough for my liking. I just don't think that the mounting setup is the best. They need the rear frame tie-in that goes all the way threw like others (c4x4 and factory ones) have. Actually there are three tie bolts per side that do go through the frame with backing plates for these brackets. And the drivers side bracket incorporates the steering box bolts. They are solid. One improvement would be to weld a piece of box channel across the front to tie the two brackets together. I think MJeff suggested that in a previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Yeah, I'm using a factory tow bar mount on mine that I found on an XJ in the junkyard. It bolts up to the factory brackets, sandwiched between the brackets and the hooks, and runs across the lower header panel. Image Not Found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEAD_NOT_FOLLOW Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 Those don't tie into the rear good enough for my liking. I just don't think that the mounting setup is the best. They need the rear frame tie-in that goes all the way threw like others (c4x4 and factory ones) have. Actually there are three tie bolts per side that do go through the frame with backing plates for these brackets. And the drivers side bracket incorporates the steering box bolts. They are solid. One improvement would be to weld a piece of box channel across the front to tie the two brackets together. I think MJeff suggested that in a previous post. I was referring to the rear tie-in. The front 2 only go threw a very thin sandwiched piece of metal, the 3rd one goes threw the "frame" on the pass side and only into the steering box on the drivers side. The extra bolt I was referring to is further back (see photo). Photo is of the C4x4 winch bumper mount but they are identical as far as the mounting goes. And here is the photo of the side support brace (L bracket) I keep refering to that the C4x4 hooks have that not many other brands do. It helps keep the bracket from bending during side pulls. You can also see in this photo what the front 2 bolts actually go threw. Thier simply is no support there without the added side bracket that c4x4 offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 He's modified the brackets to use the rear through bolt. Here's a pic I took before bolting in the sway bar bushings. The front two bolts are the steering box box bolts, the rear goes through the "frame". The other side has two bolts through the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicofuentes0224 Posted May 3, 2008 Share Posted May 3, 2008 This is gonna sound like a ridiculous question, but I just need it for clarification purposes. There is absolutely no reason to buy tow hooks and brackets if I'm gonna buy a front bumper with D ring shackles on the front right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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