Jacob Ochs Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Hey guys, it's been awhile! I was wondering if there is a place I could get a Dana 44 front built how I wanted for around $2000 to $3000 price range. Also any info on what vehicles that have a Dana 44 that are a semi easy swap. I am keeping the 5x4.5 bolt pattern. I know there is an over seas version that were factory put in some Cherokee's but I don't think getting my hands on one of those would be easy!
Francesco Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 What I've read is most Dana 44s are going to need fabrication to fit, but the '07+ Rubicon Dana 44 axles are much stronger than other front Dana 44s. Good luck!
89eliminator Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 the only axle that fits your criteria is a 44 out of a TJ rubicon. But really thats just a D44 diff with D30 outers. how "built" do you want this axle?
HOrnbrod Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 http://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-6762820-dana-44-front-xjtj-zj.html DANA 44 FRONT XJ,TJ, ZJ
Jacob Ochs Posted January 29, 2016 Author Posted January 29, 2016 Thank you all! I would like to run 37" at the end of the build with no worries! I did see something about the TJ axles being a option. I didn't know that it wasn't that much stronger than the Cherokee 30 though! It makes me question if the options for a Dana 44 front for me aren't that much stronger that a 30!
89eliminator Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 a 44 out of a ford or FSJ will be an upgrade, but you will not be able to run 5x4.5 wheels unless you run an adapter.
HOrnbrod Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 hahaha. and the pic is a D30 Yes, I saw that, but they wouldn't lie, would they? :yes: Maybe just a generic pic.
Jacob Ochs Posted January 29, 2016 Author Posted January 29, 2016 http://eastcoastgearsupply.com/i-6762820-dana-44-front-xjtj-zj.html DANA 44 FRONT XJ,TJ, ZJ That looks a lot like a Dana 30? Is it just a picture reference?
HOrnbrod Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Probably. Why don't you give them a call? I'm interested in knowing if it's for real or not.
Jacob Ochs Posted January 29, 2016 Author Posted January 29, 2016 Probably. Why don't you give them a call? I'm interested in knowing if it's for real or not.I'm going to call them now, I'll let you guys know what they say!
Jacob Ochs Posted January 29, 2016 Author Posted January 29, 2016 I just called them and they were suprised it was a picture of the 30 and said it was a mistake, he said he was going to update the picture soon! So there's that. But he also said it's pretty much the same other than the Differential housing itself.
HOrnbrod Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 http://www.quadratec.com/products/52461_102X_PG.htm
Pete M Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Thank you all! I would like to run 37" at the end of the build with no worries! um, you do realize the Ujoints are the same size as the Dana 30, yes?
daking Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 What are the common fail points between the axles? (30 / 44) U-joints Gears Spindles Tube strength un-sprung weight Yoke ?others? So, if the common fail point, is say, "axle shafts", then would it make sense to focus solutions on that fail point? Or, just fix the common fail points. I just saw a snapped Dana 30 on an XJ (on the "Book Of Faces") Maybe from too much jumping? So would have a truss prevented that? Would having a 44 have prevented that? I was looking at going with a 44, but I changed my mind. I'm not planning on running larger then 33" tires. I will be trusing, upgrading the axle shafts & joints, and maybe sleeving. Not saying the 44 is not worth it. It would be cool to have a 44.
Lee21490 Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 What are the common fail points between the axles? (30 / 44) U-joints Gears Spindles Tube strength un-sprung weight Yoke ?others? So, if the common fail point, is say, "axle shafts", then would it make sense to focus solutions on that fail point? Or, just fix the common fail points. I just saw a snapped Dana 30 on an XJ (on the "Book Of Faces") Maybe from too much jumping? So would have a truss prevented that? Would having a 44 have prevented that? I was looking at going with a 44, but I changed my mind. I'm not planning on running larger then 33" tires. I will be trusing, upgrading the axle shafts & joints, and maybe sleeving. Not saying the 44 is not worth it. It would be cool to have a 44. I ended up just doing a Chromolly d30 setup myself. However if you do go d44... This is the one to get http://www.currieenterprises.com/CESTORE/Product596.aspx?id=4235 The currie is even high pinion.
Jacob Ochs Posted January 30, 2016 Author Posted January 30, 2016 I like the Quadratec one, it's a pretty decent price in my oppinion considering the only thing missing would be the hubs! Also I did hear that they had the same u-joints as the Dana 30 but could be upgraded?
Lee21490 Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 I like the Quadratec one, it's a pretty decent price in my oppinion considering the only thing missing would be the hubs! Also I did hear that they had the same u-joints as the Dana 30 but could be upgraded? The older d30's came with small, weak U-Joints. The 92+? Came with the same size U-Joint as the D44's. also the G2 on quadratec is Low pinion, iirc
HOrnbrod Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 The 92+? Came with the same size U-Joint as the D44's. 91and up = 1310 series u-joints.
Lee21490 Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 The 92+? Came with the same size U-Joint as the D44's.damn, i was close lol 91and up = 1310 series u-joints.
FrankTheDog Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 1310 U-Joints are for the drive shaft. Axle shaft U-Joints from 84-95 are Spicer 260 sized except for ones that had ABS. All ABS and 95.5-01 Cherokees have Dana 44 sized 297/760 U-joints.
DansGreyMj Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 What I've read is most Dana 44s are going to need fabrication to fit, but the '07+ Rubicon Dana 44 axles are much stronger than other front Dana 44s. Good luck!The Jk internals are slightly stronger than a regular 44, but the housings themselves are junk without sleeving and trussing.
Incommando Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 A well-trussed HP D30 with 760 U-joints is arguably equal to a stock LP D44 front.
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