Strokermjcomanche Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Here's what I got in the mail ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 :eek: they are offering money now?! dang. I wonder if they'll break down and send us some cash for our liberty :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 :eek: they are offering money now?! dang. I wonder if they'll break down and send us some cash for our liberty :D I'll take $100 all day long , along with a brand new hitch too lol. It's only fair that you should get $100 also . The Liberty's had the same recall right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 think so. we've been ignoring the letters because ours is both a diesel and already has a factory hitch. but I'm more than happy to remove it for 100 bucks and a new hitch :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula69 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 OK. I do have several WJ's and have not gotten this letter...but: Just from what I have read it appears to be a law firm who is trying to gather information on a class action suit. Am I incorrect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 OK. I do have several WJ's and have not gotten this letter...but: Just from what I have read it appears to be a law firm who is trying to gather information on a class action suit. Am I incorrect? Not really . The purpose of the letter is to install a hitch on certain Wjs especially with aftermarket hitches because iirc the aftermarket hitches may puncture the gas tank in a rear end collision because of how low they sit vs the mopar hitch that is the same height as the bumper . The replacement parts won't be available till September 15th at the earliest . I think if the law firm was collecting info the dealer wouldn't be installing hitches . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasbulliwagen Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Are you sure this is WJ's? As a dealer tech we've only been doing ZJ's and KJ's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Are you sure this is WJ's? As a dealer tech we've only been doing ZJ's and KJ's. Positive . Just recieved it in the mail Saturday and it only lists 99-04 grand Cherokees and I've never owned anything else covered under any recall . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula69 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 OK. I do have several WJ's and have not gotten this letter...but: Just from what I have read it appears to be a law firm who is trying to gather information on a class action suit. Am I incorrect? Not really . The purpose of the letter is to install a hitch on certain Wjs especially with aftermarket hitches because iirc the aftermarket hitches may puncture the gas tank in a rear end collision because of how low they sit vs the mopar hitch that is the same height as the bumper . The replacement parts won't be available till September 15th at the earliest . I think if the law firm was collecting info the dealer wouldn't be installing hitches . OK...Sounds good. But: Why would the manufacturer be responsible to replacing aftermarket hitches the owner decided to install? Don't get me wrong - I'm all for free stuff, but how could the manufacturer be responsible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Good question , maybe dasbulliwagen could answer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyluvv Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I just got mine in the mail today as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 The wording is nowhere near the official letter I got for the KJ. Is it the kind of slick sales thing that is borderline fraud or the real deal? Who is it from and who answers the number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankTheDog Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Chrysler is getting hit real hard about the ZJ,WJ and KJ fuel tanks. Their initial effort on getting the vehicles recalled and inspected was deemed insufficiant by the NHSTA. Chrysler had to step up their effort to get the vehicles in and repaired. NHSTA basically said that your jeep is about the same as an early Pinto is for rear crash worthiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny quest Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 my WJ is a figure 2. so no money for me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 everyone should get the 100 bucks just for getting inspected. just got our letter today :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 OK...Sounds good. But: Why would the manufacturer be responsible to replacing aftermarket hitches the owner decided to install? Don't get me wrong - I'm all for free stuff, but how could the manufacturer be responsible? Simple. All it would take is one "Pinto Kid" to cost Jeep gazillions of bucks. If the aftermarket hitches pose a danger of puncturing the gas tank and starting a fire (or causing an explosion), the downside for Chrysler/Jeep is almost infinite. The cost of replacing a few trailer hitches will be peanuts compared to what one Pinto Kid lawsuit would cost them. Homework assignment: http://users.wfu.edu/palmitar/Law&Valuation/Papers/1999/Leggett-pinto.html http://philosophia.uncg.edu/phi361-metivier/module-2-why-does-business-need-ethics/case-the-ford-pinto/ There will be a quiz on Friday ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Such crap. They met the requirements of the day and that should be all it takes. "Give me money because my '63 Corvair did not have factory seat belts waaaaaa" We are a nation of wusses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akula69 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I too got the letter for our WJ's. None have a hitch, so the recall is a moot point for us. However, I do want to say my daughter's was hit in the rear several weeks ago by a Volvo at 45-55 MPH and the gas tank did not rupture against the axle. It did develop a leak due to the Volvo riding under the bumper and holing it. While I understand and agree that Ford's decision process with the Pinto was flawed (mostly due to arrogance and monetary factors) as Incommando said, the WJ passed the requirements for the time and it is somewhat unrealistic to expect it to pass more stringent regulation 10 years later. The Crown VIctoria police interceptor is a prime example as well. Initially it was deemed safe but later tests (and larger vehicles) were found to create a problem. Ford crafted a steel plate to deflect the tank down and away from the axle in a violent rear-end collision....which simply caused the tank to burst upon impact with the roadway. Ultimately, until folks stop ramming each other there will always be some type of danger, and some lawyer who will look for a way to make a buck on the liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankTheDog Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Crown Vic interceptors get serviced in the garage I go to. They also have built in fire extinguishers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasbulliwagen Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Sorry. I hadn't heard about WJ's getting hitches until this thread. We have begun inspecting some but aren't able to repair any until the middle of September. We don't even have labor times for the job yet either. It all goes back to a lawsuit from someone who's family was hit and killed in what the accident description sounds like an unsurvivable accident. If I remember the article right a trailer hitch would not have changed anything. Chrysler is just giving in to the NHTSA so they don't get a PR nightmare. That hasn't stopped the NHTSA from hounding Chrysler nonstop about how slow they seem to be doing the recalls and parts availability. Which brings us to $100 gift cards to get people to come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Ridiculous. It is like the GM ignition switch. Some lady was killed when her Cobalt was literally crushed when a semi rear ended it as it was stuck in traffic on the highway. The car was pinned between it and the semi that has stopped in front of her. The family is of course blaming the ignition switch. Vultures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Such crap. They met the requirements of the day and that should be all it takes. "Give me money because my '63 Corvair did not have factory seat belts waaaaaa" We are a nation of wusses I disagree. The Pinto came out in 1968. The WJ came out thirty years later, LONG after the problems with the Pinto fuel tanks (and, incidentally, the problems with Crown Vic gas tanks) were known throughout the industry. But Jeep didn't want to have a spare time standing up in the cargo area like the Cherokee, and they didn't want the spare slung underneath like the Comanche -- so they stuck it under the cargo floor. That obviously meant they had to mount the gas tank pretty low, where it's particularly susceptible to damage. My WJ didn't last a year, but in the nine or so months I had it I was a bit safer because I had the Up Country (off-road) package, so my plastic gas tank had a steel skid protecting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Which brings us to $100 gift cards to get people to come in. So I guess the hot tip for WJ owners without hitches is to go on Craigs List, find a cheap universal hitch, slap it on and call for your $100 gift card and free factory hitch "replacement." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 Which brings us to $100 gift cards to get people to come in.So I guess the hot tip for WJ owners without hitches is to go on Craigs List, find a cheap universal hitch, slap it on and call for your $100 gift card and free factory hitch "replacement." I made an appointment at the local dealer for sept 22 and asked the service manager to explain the letter I got in the mail a bit better . If you have a factory hitch they check to make sure that there is no structural issues with either the frame or the hitch , if all is good they leave it alone and you get $100 prepaid card . If you have an aftermarket hitch they check the frame , if all is good with the frame they replace the hitch and you get the prepaid card . If there is no hitch , they check the frame and install a hitch and you get the prepaid card . This is what my local dealer is doing , other dealers may interpret the letter differently .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepsOLot Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 My wife was told, even thought i installed a factory hitch on her '04 WJ, they still consider it an aftermarket hitch based on it wasn't factory or dealer installed. She's getting it inspected next week. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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