JeepcoMJ Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 No, you still can't figure put that the problem is american emissions standards, and consumer dynamics. You will never get a quality diesel residential/small suv in america. The diesel mechanics here are not skilled in working on them, hence expensive service...and they never will be. The american consumer does not embrace what europeans do, and the result will always be slap a part on engineering. Someone needs to remove your head from your sphincter. Learn to experience things yourself before passing judgement. For God's sake, get off your computer and actually turn a wrench before you open your mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyinajeep726 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillithium Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComancheKid45 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 :cheers: :popcorn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 To win I would have had to defeat myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrawombat Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Further, have you owned a vehicle with the new 9 speed? Worked on one? Didn't think so. Have you owned a diesel kj? Worked on one? Didnt think so. All you are doing here is regurgitating "that thing that you read at that one place". You act like someone who will call what he thinks is a sheep, a sheep, even if it is obvious to everyone else that it is a wolf How many mj have you worked on? I have built more than 10, stripped more than 20. as far as I am concerned, here, on this forum, specifically with regards to this forum, and especially on the subject of practical application of knowledge, I am the boot, you are the ant. What you have done and what I have done gives neither of us any damn right to act as arrogant as we have, specifically towards each pther. But I tell you what, you are the only person I have ever interacted with I would happily punch right on the mouth. Can you at least answer his questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 Moi? No. No. Bet he hasn't either No. Yes. Clearly stated CR was just the jumping off point. Reading comprehension helps. 3 but is the MJ a Fiat and therefore relevant? How many Commandos has he worked on? Just as relevant. I get he junks vehicles. I see his type working at the junkyard every time I go there. Some of them even have double digits in their tooth count and have showered in the current month. I would not let a junker work on my wheelbarrow. Either way it was fun to answer :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Here ya go: http://safeshare.tv/w/IEgQqEQmpJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Lol. I do not junk cars. I let a hobby take control. Have all my teeth. Wisdom teeth, too. Health insurance, nice car, toys, and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big66440 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 :hmm: WTF just happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComancheKid45 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Thats what i was wondering.... :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old man with MJ Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 The diesel offered in the new cherokee by VM is a V-6. Diesels offered in the 05 and 06 Libertys was a VM-4, by the way it was offered from 02-07 for exports, it has a history of reliability in the overseas market. My two pennies worth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 The export Liberty (sold as the Cherokee everywhere but N America) actually used a 2.5 liter version with numerous differences from the 2.8 used here. Even the anti-American toothless wonder pointed out the problems were due to changes for the American market. VM Motori is 100% Fiat owned. As I do not buy in an export market it really doesn't matter how well an export version might function to me anyway. But maybe if they could have brought the unchanged 2.5 here it would have made a world of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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