jpdocdave Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I stopped using ebay almost a year ago, I sold a couple small things, and had about $3.50 in seller fees. Ebay crap was set up to automatic withdraw from my checking, but I switched banks and forgot out that, went out of town and came back to ebay telling me I owe them $28.50. No way am I paying like 800% fees or whatever it is to ebay. I tried getting a hold of someone, no contact available for this stuff. If you have a dispute, or something you can email someone about that, but I can't get anyone about this. So I boycott Ebay now, haven't used it for a year, I love Craigslist. Any way, thats not my point.....Paypal, owned by Ebay, sends me this: Hello DAVE xxxxx, An explanation of payment holds and how they apply to you Your business is important to us. That's why we're committed to providing a fast and secure payment service to you and your customers while keeping our prices competitive. We're also committed to clearly communicating changes to our policies and procedures. So, we're writing to let you know about a change to your PayPal account. From now on, payments you receive will be temporarily held in a pending balance. This pending balance helps make sure that you'll have enough money in your account to cover any buyer claims. Payments will be held in a pending balance for up to 21 days. For example, if you receive a $100 payment (after fees), the $100 will be held in a pending balance for up to 21 days. After 21 days, the money will be available for withdrawal. The money may be released sooner if: 1. We can confirm that the item was delivered 2. Your buyer leaves positive feedback. (Applies only to eBay items.) We know this is a change in the way we do business with you and we hope you understand that you haven't done anything wrong. In deciding whether to apply payment holds, we review many factors including transaction activity, business type, and customer disputes. Payment holds are often applied to new sellers who don't have a lot of transaction history, sellers in traditionally high risk industries (for example, travel or tickets), or sellers who've had a high number of claims filed against them. If you're a PayPal Money Market Fund customer, you'll continue to earn interest on the total balance while your money is held. To learn more about this policy change, please read our latest funds availability policy We appreciate your business and look forward to a continued partnership. Don't hesitate to contact us with any questions. Thanks, PayPal Please do not reply to this email. This mailbox is not monitored and you will not receive a response. For assistance, log in to your PayPal account and click the Help link in the top right corner of any PayPal page. So now they just want me to know they will be holding funds that are deposited for 21 days......for my benefit might I ad. I'm glad I don't use ebay, and I haven't, and won't use paypal anymore either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Welcome to the "Got screwed by PP and refuse to ever use them again" club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinkrun Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Welcome to the world of Paypal and ebay. I sell on ebay for part of my living I have tried other places and none have the traffic ebay does I am said to say. They started this new holding crap on new sellers a while ago. Also do be careful as there alot of fake emails from paypal and ebay that try to get you to click on a link and enter your password and user ID(and they do look real). Do this and you get a BIG screwing they will hack into your account. I have to sell on ebay and I did quit for a while had TONS of problems also. I had to face that for me there`s a certain amount of transactions I will loose every year. Oh I had some charge backs fought them and did win somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knever3 Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 I got the same thing, the reason is Paypal doesn't want to get screwed and they tell us the seller that it is protecting the buyer. I went with it and after a couple transactions they stop the 21 day thing. It was not 21 days before the payment was put into my acount though. They must just warn you of the max that could happen because I was apalled that they would hold my money from me without my product since I had already shipped it out!! The nerve. I have heard both pro's and con's about the paypal experience and mine thus far is a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakal Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 no to ebay and paypal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I have no problem with paypal. Its Ebay that I have a problem with now. I bought something from a seller, and never recieved it. Opened up a case, they forced the refund through paypal, and I thought it was done. The seller had NSF in the account, so it was delayed 5 days. Then on the day it should have happened the seller stopped payment. I called paypal and talked to someone who was helpful, and she transferred me to ebay, who was now responsible for reimbursing me. I sat on hold for one and a half hours twice, to no avail. I haven't had the energy or desire to sit on the phone for that long again... So I haven't followed it up yet. All over about $18, but its the point none the less. Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpdocdave Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 no to ebay and paypal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :fs2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 :dunno: i don't do a whole lot with them, but i've never really had a problem. they (paypal) also assisted me in getting money back that i had sent as a deposit on an item here on comancheclub when the other party wouldn't refund it. sure it took a while, but you can't take money someone's already spent. so far i've had a good experience with paypal and ebay. and especially their media sub-page, half.com thats where a majority of students buy their textbooks, they also do games, dvds, cds. had good luck there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrawombat Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 :dunno: i don't do a whole lot with them, but i've never really had a problem. they (paypal) also assisted me in getting money back that i had sent as a deposit on an item here on comancheclub when the other party wouldn't refund it. sure it took a while, but you can't take money someone's already spent. Well, yea, you can and that's essentially what Paypal does. When they 'assisted' you in getting your money back, they took it from the seller's Paypal account balance. If there was no money in the Paypal account balance, then they reached right into the bank account that is linked to the Paypal account and got the money that way. If there was no money in that, it doesn't matter as the bank account would become overdrawn and that person would have to pay the fines his/her banks imposes for overdrawing an account. This is one problem that people have with Paypal - they can reach into your personal saving/checking account and take money if need be. It seems that they'll often to this without even consulting with you...they just DO it. I've never had an issue with Paypal or ebay, other than ebay's ridiculous listing fees so I'll continue to use both, but likely won't ever sell on e-bay again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowey Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 ebay's ridiculous listing fees so I'll continue to use both, but likely won't ever sell on e-bay again. I get the notice for free listing fees in XXX category emails.. then I list whatever I am trying to get rid of in those category... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazjeeper Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 man the one time I used paypal they riped me for over 800 bucks... I still can not git anyone on a phone that will say yeah I can help... its been over 10 years and every once in awail they send me a note saying they are holding my money and the fees they have taken to do so... I am thinking in a nother 10 yeas it will be all theirs and they will stop... I hope anyway becasue everytime I see that it bugs me to no end... Ebay paypal its all a big scam.. and Please sont anyone say oh you can just call and they will fix the problem.... because if you can fix it i will give you the numbers and you can have whats left of the money... they do not answer, they don't care when they do answer or for soemreson after about an hour of long distance charges the call gits droped... BLA EBAY CRAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazjeeper Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I have no problem with paypal. Its Ebay that I have a problem with now. I bought something from a seller, and never recieved it. Opened up a case, they forced the refund through paypal, and I thought it was done. The seller had NSF in the account, so it was delayed 5 days. Then on the day it should have happened the seller stopped payment. I called paypal and talked to someone who was helpful, and she transferred me to ebay, who was now responsible for reimbursing me. I sat on hold for one and a half hours twice, to no avail. I haven't had the energy or desire to sit on the phone for that long again... So I haven't followed it up yet. All over about $18, but its the point none the less. Rob L. and the bad thing is they do this to people everyday and everyone says ah its not worth it... they are and have made millions day after day $18 at a time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetjeep2.5 Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I have only bought from ebay three times. All good transactions. I won't sell on ebay. I use PayPal for many transactions, but not with deposited funds but direct link to account. No problems so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjrev10 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 i just used paypal for a 500 dollar transaction. they took 15 bucks as a fee and also you cannot get your money for 3-4 days. should be instant transfer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 this day and age it should definitely be instant transfer, there is no excuse not to. (except that 4 days of interest.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teckman02 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 there is a number that you can call for paypal once when i needed to call i just did a google search for it and found it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 there is a number that you can call for paypal once when i needed to call i just did a google search for it and found it Getting the paypal number wasn't the problem for me. They were very nice. It was getting anything out of Ebay that was the problem. Rob L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpdocdave Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 I had to bring this back, I openly boycotted and refused to use ebay, and then back when I started this thread I put paypal on that list. I have been dedicated to my position, have not used them at all, and won't. Today I get this in my email: Hello DAVE ----, Because of your consistently good performance, we're removing your account's payment hold. Questions? Visit our Help Center. Thanks, PayPal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1tonMJ Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I have made SOOOOOO much money on Criagslist, I am not going to even try anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brdhntr Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 i sell alot of stuff on ebay and craigslist. i'm never really pleased with ebay and paypal. it's kind of something i put up with just because that's where the selling has to take place. i got screwed bad by paypal a year ago. i sold some hard to find audi parts for a fair price, they were in perfect condition. i got paid via paypal, shipped the items and then got a paypal refund to the guy. he complained that the item was not as descried or damaged. i tried to fight it but paypal went with him without any real dispute being allowed on my side. the guy gave paypal some pic's of the items. they were black and chrome and had a broken light and broken tabs clearly shown in the pic's. the ones i sent the guy were black, solid black, with no damage. i even pointed out the pic's on ebay from the original posting. the gave the guy a refund. so i lost the sale money, it cost be $35 in shipping and i got 2 broken pieces back. it was obvious the guy had damaged ones, used mine to replace them, and sent his broken ones back. paypal didn't care. :fs1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpdocdave Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 ^craigslist all the way, I love buying and selling, and trading on there. Way better than dealing with ebay idiots, I much prefer the craigslist idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjrev10 Posted December 31, 2010 Share Posted December 31, 2010 ^craigslist all the way, I love buying and selling, and trading on there. Way better than dealing with ebay idiots, I much prefer the craigslist idiots. i used to be a hardcore CL fan. I would still use it in my extremely local area. Lots of issues with psychos lately. I have found dealing with folks on forums such as this one and some others, have been the best for me. If you screw someone on the forum, believe me everyone is going to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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