88swampedmj Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 well ive decided to do a leafspring conversion in the front of my mj.. coil springs are a dumb design anyways...i have death wobble like crazy... i prolly won't be able to do the conversion for awhile but its gonna be worth it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 stock YJ front axle and leafs will give i THINK up to 5 inches on a MJ/XJ or so i read. they run D30s too. or you could just cut to the chase and get a full width grand wagoneer axle. have fun :banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 GW axles aren't full width; they're 61" WMS to WMS. Personally if I was you I'd check all my bushing and see if the problem goes away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROADLESS Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 DW is usually associated with worn or loose steering component(s) such as the track bar, TREs, hubs, etc. I don't think switching to leaf springs will necessarily fix the problem. DirtyComanche, I thought GW axles were 58" WMS to WMS. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 A GW D44 front is 61 WMS. A rear is 58 WMS. Fun huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROADLESS Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 A GW D44 front is 61 WMS. A rear is 58 WMS. Fun huh? Go figure! The reason for the ? was when i went to the boneyard i saw a 84 GW with Dana 44's so i measured the back axle and springs and came up with the same distance (from eye to eye) as my MJ. :nuts: I know that the spring perches are different, as well as the gear ratios, axles, lugs... but i got to thinkin (watch out) and wondered if Jeep was using same leaf springs on GW as MJ! :idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeeppinTom Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Seen the death wobble many times with different Jeepers. 9 out of 10 times death wobble comes into play when their coil spring Jeep is lifted, and the pinion angle has changed. Caster Caster Caster ! For instance, had guy at work come up acouple of months ago complaining about his front axle going crazy after hitting a bump or pothole. Brought a couple of my used TeraFlex adj. LCA's along with a degree finder to his house. Less than 15 or 20 min, measured his stock arms, extended the Tera LCA's a few rounds, and about 3 degrees lower, his death wobble was put to rest. In my opinion the MJ has a really good combination "coils and leafs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 so how can i fix it the cheapest way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 How'd you lift it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeeppinTom Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 so how can i fix it the cheapest way? I know there had been a rant on Rustys products, but call them and get the fixed LCA's made for how ever much lift you have. 6" in your sig right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 yea about 6" or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty Hunter Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 My LCA's are 17" with 5.5" coils, and my caster is dead on with 16.25" UCA's. Axle is centered fore/aft where it's supposed to be. Check for a loose track bar as well, turning the steering wheel may show play in the upper mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 If you buy fixed LCA's or UCA's you will regret it. Always upgrade for the Adjustable ones, that way if Inchitis hits, you will have adjustment to correct pinion angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaterjeep Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 Death Wobble sucks a major one, I had it about a year ago, took it in to get fixed, cost me a lil over $800 to fix. Now almost a year later IT'S BACK!!!! I swear that if I didn't have so much sentimental value in this truck I'd ship it off to the crusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeeppinTom Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Death Wobble sucks a major one, I had it about a year ago, took it in to get fixed, cost me a lil over $800 to fix. Now almost a year later IT'S BACK!!!! I swear that if I didn't have so much sentimental value in this truck I'd ship it off to the crusher. What all was done in the $800 fix? I know some people install dual stabilizer shocks sometimes, but that just masks the root problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaterjeep Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 Death Wobble sucks a major one, I had it about a year ago, took it in to get fixed, cost me a lil over $800 to fix. Now almost a year later IT'S BACK!!!! I swear that if I didn't have so much sentimental value in this truck I'd ship it off to the crusher. What all was done in the $800 fix? I know some people install dual stabilizer shocks sometimes, but that just masks the root problem. Well, that's the funny (not really) side of the story, the guy I took it to claims he had to replace almost everything up front TRE's sway bar, you name it. If I could find the work order again (somewhere in a mess of papers) I'd give a good look over, because a real good friend of mine that I trust, says that only one, maybe two parts were replaced. So, when I get a chance to I'm gonna take it back to the guy and tell him off, and that he'd better fix it right this time, and he'd better not charge me for it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camanchedriver23 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 i got mine fixed along with a new dana 44 installed all for under 300 dollars and i have absolutly no death wobble it doesnt even want to try it any more guess i got a good deal :D :USAflag: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche89 Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 i just put a long arm kit on mine and it stop doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 I fixed mine by replacing a bad front axle U-joint, new bushings in the LCAs and a new track bar and bracket. It seems a track bar which can move only slightly can allow death wobble to occur, but one that's got 1/2" of slop (like my buddy's Cherokee) will just let it slowly wander all over the road. And yes, he's getting a new adjustable one from Motion. Actually expected it yesterday when UPS dropped off his leaf springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Death Wobble is always caused by operator error, or neglect. :brows: Not checking an adjusting caster after a lift==death wobble. (operator error) Expecting loose parts to work right== death wobble. (operator error) worn or broken parts==death wobble (owner neglect) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 worn or broken parts==death wobble (owner neglect) In this case, previous owner neglect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 Leaf springs can also suffer from death wobble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Leaf springs can also suffer from death wobble... And other strange handling quirks. Just ask anyone who has ever driven a CJ. :brows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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