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Just failed smog in my 89 4.0 Hoping its not the cat but my NO numbers were way high. Guy said it could've been EGR too but idk if it would cause this big of a spike. I attached the results from the test below... Any recommendations as to what I should do?

 

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Do you have a Renix Engine Monitor? If not check the resistance between A & B of the O2 sensor reading should be 5-7Ω. You can also check EGR function?

 

https://comancheclub.com/topic/73480-21-–-renix-egr-valve-test/#comment-769327


From the FSM is in this post.
https://comancheclub.com/topic/38225-egr-solenoid-renix/

 

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As you are running lean, it's worth checking to see if your manifold bolts are tight at the head.  Checking for any vacuum leaks before trying to chase emissions stuff is a good place to start.

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If it were EGR would a symptom be high idle at startup? 1 in 10 times I start up it revs to ~3k rpm. I don't have a renix monitor. I'm not familiar either

 

Ill check the o2 aswell

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Just now, pizzaman09 said:

As you are running lean, it's worth checking to see if your manifold bolts are tight at the head.  Checking for any vacuum leaks before trying to chase emissions stuff is a good place to start.

I checked vacuum leaks yesterday by spraying brake clean around all hoses and connections to try to get it to rev up. Nothing

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So I'm not getting vacuum signal to the transducer or the EGR. I'm getting vacuum to the inlet on the solenoid. I'm gonna check the connection to the solenoid with a multimeter but I'm thinking its the solenoid. Likely causing the high revs at startup and after freeway driving and also running lean. But tell me if I'm missing something

18 hours ago, fiatslug87 said:

Do you have a Renix Engine Monitor? If not check the resistance between A & B of the O2 sensor reading should be 5-7Ω. You can also check EGR function?

 

https://comancheclub.com/topic/73480-21-–-renix-egr-valve-test/#comment-769327


From the FSM is in this post.
https://comancheclub.com/topic/38225-egr-solenoid-renix/

 

 

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33 minutes ago, JIMMYRIG said:

So I'm not getting vacuum signal to the transducer or the EGR. I'm getting vacuum to the inlet on the solenoid.

 

EGR Solenoid needs to be de-energized, with engine RUNNING, so vacuum can flow to Transducer or the EGR valve. Disconnect EGR Solenoid electrical connector, then test.

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5 hours ago, Ωhm said:

 

EGR Solenoid needs to be de-energized, with engine RUNNING, so vacuum can flow to Transducer or the EGR valve. Disconnect EGR Solenoid electrical connector, then test.


I thought it stops letting vacuum through when it’s de-energized. 

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I had a high Nox situation with my last emissions test which failed.  REM says my vac is about 3/5ths of what it should be.  Tested all of the lines with vac tester - all good.  Knew the manifold bolts were good because I tightened them when I had the head milled.  Again when I replaced the clutch and slave swap.  Finally replaced the front tube on the valve cover with new.  Viola - VAC up to 15 - 16 inHG.  Passed emissions with flying colors.

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So my egr doesnt seem to be the issue with high idles at startup and after highway driving. I think its something to do with the tps or map.

 

But as the EGR still isnt functioning should I entertain fixing it or just replace the cat? Rock auto has a new cat for less than $200. My thought is the egr couldn't cause that big of a spike in Nitric. Any thoughts?

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1 minute ago, JIMMYRIG said:

So my egr doesnt seem to be the issue with high idles at startup and after highway driving. I think its something to do with the tps or map.

 

But as the EGR still isnt functioning should I entertain fixing it or just replace the cat? Rock auto has a new cat for less than $200. My thought is the egr couldn't cause that big of a spike in Nitric. Any thoughts?

If your going to buy a cat, buy one from Magnaflow directly, super high quality and they gave me $75 for my core with prepaid shipping back.  It was actually less expensive than most of the Rock Auto cats before the core refund.

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