Newton Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Wicked! :rock on: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadan Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Just remember the dyno numbers will seem low thanks to those big honking tires lol. Can't wait to see the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-man930 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 This should be good. Bitchin' ride dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Ochs Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 Sorry for the huge delay! They're having problems with the front brakes locking up so they haven't been able to make much progress. I'm hoping for it to be done by the end of the week. We'll see! I'm anxious to drive it! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Ochs Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 Funny story for everyone! So it's tuned and ran fantastic for 10 minutes. A number of factors came into play but long story short I blew a head gasket, I'll have it fixed by the end of the weekend! But just my luck! OH BY THE WAY 311hp @4400 288tq @3600 the rpm ranges are not to scale with the tire size or gear ratio though. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tink Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 So is this blown head gasket going to be a recurring problem or is it something that is preventable? Nice numbers too, great job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Ochs Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 So is this blown head gasket going to be a recurring problem or is it something that is preventable? Nice numbers too, great job!It is preventable. It was a combination of excessive coolant pressure, (above 27psi) because I had an overflow tank that was completely sealed (aluminum tank with screw on cap). Me running 10psi of boost, and it was probably horribly weekend from the multiple times I tried to tune it prior! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-man930 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 So is this blown head gasket going to be a recurring problem or is it something that is preventable? Nice numbers too, great job!It is preventable. It was a combination of excessive coolant pressure, (above 27psi) because I had an overflow tank that was completely sealed (aluminum tank with screw on cap). Me running 10psi of boost, and it was probably horribly weekend from the multiple times I tried to tune it prior! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Um, this sounds like the result of a combustion leak... Wether there's 10psi or 20psi in the intake none of it should be making its way to the water jackets. I'll go with your idea that it was damaged during your initial tuning attempts. Interested to see what you find when the heads are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Ochs Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 So is this blown head gasket going to be a recurring problem or is it something that is preventable? Nice numbers too, great job!It is preventable. It was a combination of excessive coolant pressure, (above 27psi) because I had an overflow tank that was completely sealed (aluminum tank with screw on cap). Me running 10psi of boost, and it was probably horribly weekend from the multiple times I tried to tune it prior! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Um, this sounds like the result of a combustion leak... Wether there's 10psi or 20psi in the intake none of it should be making its way to the water jackets. I'll go with your idea that it was damaged during your initial tuning attempts. Interested to see what you find when the heads are off. On a 60 degree v6 like the 2.8, 3.1, and 3.4 there is, the intake manifold is part of the heads. I'll try and take a picture tonight, it's a goofy motor. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-man930 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 So is this blown head gasket going to be a recurring problem or is it something that is preventable? Nice numbers too, great job!It is preventable. It was a combination of excessive coolant pressure, (above 27psi) because I had an overflow tank that was completely sealed (aluminum tank with screw on cap). Me running 10psi of boost, and it was probably horribly weekend from the multiple times I tried to tune it prior! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Um, this sounds like the result of a combustion leak... Wether there's 10psi or 20psi in the intake none of it should be making its way to the water jackets. I'll go with your idea that it was damaged during your initial tuning attempts.Interested to see what you find when the heads are off. On a 60 degree v6 like the 2.8, 3.1, and 3.4 there is, the intake manifold is part of the heads. I'll try and take a picture tonight, it's a goofy motor. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-man930 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I've messed with a bunch of these leakers out in the field. As far as I can figure, the only route for boost (or vacuum) to get into the water jackets via the intake manifold is the bank-to-bank coolant passages that are sealed up with the intake gaskets (2 spots I believe)... any other manifold leaks will either suck oil (from the valley) into the chambers or pressurize the crankcase when you're under boost; not cooling system issues. This is assuming the intake isn't cracked of course. I'm willing to bet you were pushing boost into the water jackets through the already blown head gaskets; you just finished them off with that good tune and the hard dyno pulls it took to get there. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyluvv Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Funny story for everyone! So it's tuned and ran fantastic for 10 minutes. A number of factors came into play but long story short I blew a head gasket, I'll have it fixed by the end of the weekend! But just my luck! OH BY THE WAY 311hp @4400 288tq @3600 the rpm ranges are not to scale with the tire size or gear ratio though. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Slap some stock tires on the back for the next dyno pull. I would like to see what it is really putting down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Ochs Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 I've messed with a bunch of these leakers out in the field. As far as I can figure, the only route for boost (or vacuum) to get into the water jackets via the intake manifold is the bank-to-bank coolant passages that are sealed up with the intake gaskets (2 spots I believe)... any other manifold leaks will either suck oil (from the valley) into the chambers or pressurize the crankcase when you're under boost; not cooling system issues. This is assuming the intake isn't cracked of course. I'm willing to bet you were pushing boost into the water jackets through the already blown head gaskets; you just finished them off with that good tune and the hard dyno pulls it took to get there. :yes: That's a good theory aswell, yours sounds more knowledgeable than mine! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19comanche86 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Was the block machined and heads gone through and resurfaced? On thing that could cause this is a warped head. Did it overheat at all during your tuning? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Ochs Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 Was the block machined and heads gone through and resurfaced? On thing that could cause this is a warped head. Did it overheat at all during your tuning? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah, they were resurfaced block was machined and had a valve job. When I was on the highway it jumped from 189 to 290 and I pulled it over. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Ochs Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 I heard antifreeze is good for spark plug conductivity? it's 8:16 pm here. I'm hoping to be done by midnight!! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Ochs Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 I will be getting some videos of me driving soon, I need to buy some camera mounts. But here are some pictures. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadan Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 three things. Get MLS gaskets if you can. Have the head surface machined for said MLS Gasket (requires a smoother finish), and use some head studs. Every boosted engine I have ever built and driven had this combination, or at least as close as I could get. At minimum do the head studs. The number one cause of blown head gaskets on boosted motors is the heads lifting off the block from bolt stretch, and head bolts aren't as accurate for clamping force as you fight the thread resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Ochs Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 Unfortunate news. I'm running out of funds and time (need a reliable vehicle soon) for this project. So it's up for sale make an offer and if it's the right price it's yours. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Ochs Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 Unfortunate news. I'm running out of funds and time (need a reliable vehicle soon) for this project. So it's up for sale make an offer and if it's the right price it's yours. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Scratch that, just figured out all of my problems and received some funding. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 No one took you seriously anyhow mate. Now finish that bad boy up! :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Ochs Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 No one took you seriously anyhow mate. Now finish that bad boy up! :cheers:Ouch, harsh! LOL. Yeah, I had ran into a lot of financial issues that were arising. Things settled themselfs out; all is well! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kansashogan Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Glad to hear you are keeping it. You have come to far to give up. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Ochs Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 So today marks the 4th time pulling the heads off, it's beyond tedious but I'm sucking it up. The piston rings were damaged in the overheat. So Tuesday night I'm going to put new rings on and with the ARP studs new coolant routing and better knowledge of what the hell is going on; all should be well. Next little project will be installing a Ford IAC to control the idle better! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-man930 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Man pay close attention to the top ring lands when you're in there... fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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