Minuit Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I have recently acquired a set of pivoting vent windows from a 1993 XJ that are in extremely good shape with no rust. I want to put them on my truck. However, I also want to use them without turning my truck into a swimming pool. I'm roughly the third most stubborn person to ever live on this earth so the "just keep the stationary ones that don't leak!" argument just doesn't work on me - what is the point of that stupid triangle glass if it doesn't do anything? There must be some solution out there that keeps the vent windows while improving their sealing ability. Has anyone tried anything and have it work? I have a few ideas but I'd like to know before I dive in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 http://comancheclub.com/topic/37124-side-triangle-vent-window-leak/?fromsearch=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I'm roughly the third most stubborn person to ever live on this earth so the "just keep the stationary ones that don't leak!" argument just doesn't work on me - what is the point of that stupid triangle glass if it doesn't do anything? There must be some solution out there that keeps the vent windows while improving their sealing ability. Has anyone tried anything and have it work? I have a few ideas but I'd like to know before I dive in. Well, I'm the second most stubborn person in the world. When I bought my '88 Cherokee Pioneer new, I paid extra to get the operable vent windows. They leaked. I went back to the dealer, who brought in the Chrysler area tech rep. His solution was to offer to replace the operable vent windows with the fixed glass triangles. Refund the money I had paid to get operable windows? Oh, heck no. So I kept my operable vents and tried to stop the leaks. The problem is at the end of the metal track on the bottom of the glass. It makes a sharp step, and the rubber gasket can't properly seal at that junction, so that's where the window always "weeps." The only thing that worked for me was to liberally apply a coating of silicone grease, and then close the vent. The problem is that you have to keep reapplying the grease if you open the window(s). My XJ has (had) air conditioning, so I have kept the vents sealed shut for twenty five years, and they don't leak. But they are there if I ever need to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 This topic comes up at least once a year. People either hate them or love them. I'm in the latter group. My 91 came with the vent windows and they have never leaked, even running through typhoon car washes. I think the key is getting a good tight seal when you latch them shut. The original latch used soft metal rolled hinge pins and over time they get sloppy. I replaced them with slightly larger solid stainless pins and the windows seal good and tight. If the 93 windows look to be in good shape, stick them in and try them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComancheFan1991 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Well, I'm the second most stubborn person in the world. When I bought my '88 Cherokee Pioneer new, I paid extra to get the operable vent windows. They leaked. I went back to the dealer, who brought in the Chrysler area tech rep. His solution was to offer to replace the operable vent windows with the fixed glass triangles. Refund the money I had paid to get operable windows? Oh, heck no. So I kept my operable vents and tried to stop the leaks. The problem is at the end of the metal track on the bottom of the glass. It makes a sharp step, and the rubber gasket can't properly seal at that junction, so that's where the window always "weeps." The only thing that worked for me was to liberally apply a coating of silicone grease, and then close the vent. The problem is that you have to keep reapplying the grease if you open the window(s). My XJ has (had) air conditioning, so I have kept the vents sealed shut for twenty five years, and they don't leak. But they are there if I ever need to use them. I was wondering if operating Vents were standard on the Pioneer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 my 88 pioneer did not have vent windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I was wondering if operating Vents were standard on the Pioneer. Optional -- at least in 1988. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobolink Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Never leaked in my '90 Pioneer, and they were an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big66440 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 This topic comes up at least once a year. People either hate them or love them. I'm in the latter group. My 91 came with the vent windows and they have never leaked, even running through typhoon car washes. I think the key is getting a good tight seal when you latch them shut. The original latch used soft metal rolled hinge pins and over time they get sloppy. I replaced them with slightly larger solid stainless pins and the windows seal good and tight. If the 93 windows look to be in good shape, stick them in and try them. So you're saying if we can find post 91 ( I'm assuming) vent windows they will likely seal better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 No, I was referring to the OP's 1993 XJ parts donor. However the XJ pivoting vent window part number did change in 1993, but I have no idea why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 Will probably get these thrown in over the weekend as well as some other goodies. I'll let you know how things go and any fixes that may need to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 They're in and I like them a lot. No wind noise whatsoever, unexpected and an improvement over what was in there. Blasted the truck with the hose for a while and the driver side doesn't seem to leak at all but the passenger side lets a few drops in - not a lot but still enough to bother with fixing. Pretty sure I know what I can do to have them both useable and dry. May update tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComancheFan1991 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 They're in and I like them a lot. No wind noise whatsoever, unexpected and an improvement over what was in there. Blasted the truck with the hose for a while and the driver side doesn't seem to leak at all but the passenger side lets a few drops in - not a lot but still enough to bother with fixing. Pretty sure I know what I can do to have them both useable and dry. May update tomorrow. I didn't know that they made a remote adjustable driver's side mirror for these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Yep! One of my favorite upgrades. They came from an XJ, but it's the same regardless. People always complain about how small they are, but a little stick on mirror on the top corner takes care of that. I hated the ones that were on there. Couldn't see crap out of 'em: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerry Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Mine only leak when at a car wash so I just stick a quarter,nickel,whatever behind the latch until after I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComancheFan1991 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Yep! One of my favorite upgrades. They came from an XJ, but it's the same regardless. People always complain about how small they are, but a little stick on mirror on the top corner takes care of that. I hated the ones that were on there. Couldn't see crap out of 'em: I have no idea if the door mount mirrors were factory or not. The shaft on the driver's side mirror being farther back, must allow it to clear the dashboard, as if it was a mirror-image of the passenger's side trim, it would hit the side of the gauge cluster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 They're a mirror image. The shaft of the mirror adjuster is right about level with the dash vent: On the other side: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 We don't need no stinking shafts or levers or cables with power mirrors. :rotfl2: Image Not Found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 :rolleyes: Good thinking on the chrome with the Laredo arm-rests though :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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