JeepsOLot Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Ok, I have an XJ that has a 3" lift on it now. I'll be swapping the front springs and fixed LCA's that came with the lift on the Eliminator. Just for grins, I put both Jeeps nose to nose to see the difference before the swap. Image Not Found I really don't see that much difference. The gold one is the XJ with the lift and the black one is the Eliminator without lift. Why is that so? The tires on the XJ are 225/75R15's and the ones on the Eliminator are 235/75R15's. Jerry
JeepsOLot Posted August 11, 2015 Author Posted August 11, 2015 Oh, and I have a 3" add a leaf from an XJ that I'm told will give me around 2" of lift on the Eliminator, therefor leveling it out. Jerry
Pete M Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 there's a thread in the DIY forum for measuring ride height. :thumbsup:
Crash Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Looks like the drive way is sloped.. I would definitely measure for height, seeing as the fenders/flares look intact. Does your MJ have V8 ZJ coils in it, maybe some kind of replacement HD springs? STOCK, center of wheel hub to bottom of flare is 17.5 in the front. Take measurement and subtract 17.5 from the number you get.
JeepsOLot Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 I measured the rear, as that's what I was lifting first, from bottom of flare to center of hub was about 20/20.5" before I did anything. Jave to check the front. Jerry
JeepsOLot Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 Just took measurements, for the front, the XJ is at 20", and the MJ is at 19", but, I still have the rear off the ground, so that might not be a true measurement. The XJ has a 3" Rough Country lift, with lift coils, fixed LCA's, a track bar relocation bracket, and a rear add a leaf. Not using the add a leaf, as I already had one for my pack. Jerry
JeepsOLot Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 As far as I know, the Eliminator's suspension is pretty much stock. Jerry
MJCARENA Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 A quick way to check lift is to measure the lower control arm mounting bolts from the ground. The lower control arms are pretty much level from the factory. So if you lift the vehicle the body side lower control arm bolt is going to be higher then the axle side lower control arm bolt. The difference between the two is the amount of lift you have in the front. This is not exact, but it is close enough to judge about how much lift you have.
JeepsOLot Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 The thing about that is, the XJ doesn't have stock LCA's, so, I don't know how accurate that would be. Jerry
MJCARENA Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 The lower control arm mounting points are still the same.
Eagle Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Just took measurements, for the front, the XJ is at 20", and the MJ is at 19", but, I still have the rear off the ground, so that might not be a true measurement. The XJ has a 3" Rough Country lift, with lift coils, fixed LCA's, a track bar relocation bracket, and a rear add a leaf. Not using the add a leaf, as I already had one for my pack. The hub-to-flare measurement for a stock suspension should be 17-1/2" for the front. So the XJ is a 2-1/2" lift, and the MJ is riding 1-1/2" higher than stock.
Eagle Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 A quick way to check lift is to measure the lower control arm mounting bolts from the ground. This is invalid, because the measurement can change depending on tire size, and even tire pressure. Either use the hub-to-flare method already discussed, or crawl underneath and use the method Pete referred to. Hornbrod posted a link to that in a recent thread abut lifts and suspensions.
MJCARENA Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 How is this invalid? It does not make a difference what size tires you have. It is the relationship of the axle to the body. Just like the hub to the flare.
JeepsOLot Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 I see what he means, measure both bolts from the ground and the difference between them would be the lift height. Jerry
JeepsOLot Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 Hopefully, tomorrow I'll have the rear done, and I can check the height again. Jerry
MJCARENA Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 If you could, do both ways, hub to flare and the lower control arm bolts and see what the results are. Just curious. I was shown this way because my flares where cut out when I got my XJ and the owner said it was a 4 inch lift. When I bought new shocks for it they were to long. Found out it was only 2.5 inches.
Pete M Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 the official factory measuring method is in that link. it's kinda fool proof if ya ask me. :dunno:
JeepsOLot Posted August 12, 2015 Author Posted August 12, 2015 Thanks, hornbrod, and Pete M, sorry, I didn't see Pete's post right away! I'll measure everything tonight when I have the Eliminator back on all 4 tires. Jerry
JeepsOLot Posted August 18, 2015 Author Posted August 18, 2015 Ok, just measured. Both rear corners are at 21 1/4", the front pass side is 20 1/4" and front driver side 19 3/4". Anyone know what could cause the driver side to be an inch shorter? Thanks Jerry
Pete M Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 crappy spring? sag from having a driver there all the time? bind in the suspension? unlevel ground? accident? super concentrated gravity at that point in the driveway? :dunno:
Strokermjcomanche Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 super concentrated gravity at that point in the driveway? :dunno: Good one!!! lol
ParadiseMJ Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 crappy spring? sag from having a driver there all the time? bind in the suspension? unlevel ground? accident? super concentrated gravity at that point in the driveway? :dunno: Depending on the driver. Could have been a 300 pounder...and that would create concentrated gravity.
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