Jeep Driver Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I have chosen General Spring. As you know I have two choices, standard or MT. If I order the MT I will need new bolts, another $40 plus 2 hours round trip to get them. I did not do the 2nd torque and I have no problem reusing the ones that I have, they are only a couple months old but will be too short with the MT pack as I have trimmed them to the nuts. MT will cost me $565 with new bolts. The standard will cost me $355 shipped and I have enough PP money to order tonight. I have yet to need any additional payload capacity. I'm concerned about the additional lift of the MTs, I read anywhere from 1-1.5" lift. I'm also concerned about a rough ride when empty. Is the MT really worth the additional $210? For those of you who have gone from standard to MT.....what's your experience? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftpiercecracker1 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I am very happy with my decision to go with MT springs, but i needed the extra payload for work. My old springs were very worn so i can't speak for how much lift, if any, i gained over new stock springs. If you can afford it i would go with the MT springs just because. The ride is stiffer, but not necessarily in a bad way. Bottom line, if you can't ever for see needing the extra payload then it would be a waste of your money to get the MT springs and you should probably just stick with stock replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I have a local spring shop 15 minute drive ( emch spring ) I can get the u bolts etc if needed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Thanks, getting the bolts it not a problem, I'm just considering the whole cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87MJTIM Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I got the GS MT springs - 3:2 configuration. They gave me approx. 3" of lift Some of that was returning the sag the old leafs had lost. Before w/ old springs: New springs: The ride is a lot stiffer. When I run over penny, I can tell you which side is facing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Thanks for the pics. This is exactly what I don't want. Then I'll end up with $500 in the front end too getting it to level out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87MJTIM Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 2" spacers up front. It now has a slight rake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 GS MT springs on the rear, OME 630 coils up front, OME shocks all around. Overall 2 to 2-1/2 inch lift after settling in. Rides and handles much better than stock. The shock selection was the key for me. Tried Monroes, Bilsteins, and OME. Monroes too soft and wallowy, Bilsteins fine if you like a buckboard ride, OMEs were perfect. Plenty of room for 31" tires to finish it off w. zero rubbing. The stance is right for me. My last ever rear leaf spring question response.......I promise. :rotfl2: With Original Springs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I got the GS MT springs - 3:2 configuration. They gave me approx. 3" of lift Some of that was returning the sag the old leafs had lost. That's not 3" of lift, then. "Lift" is a change upward from the factory ride height. How to measure that has been posted on here multiple times. Unless someone's amount of lift is compared to factory stock ride height, IMHO it doesn't mean anything because there's no point of reference for the "before" height. A number of years ago I fixed up an XJ for a former GF. The back was sagged about 3/4 of an inch. I did an AAL using the main leaves from another XJ. From the sagged condition the ride height went up 1-1/4", but 1/2" of that was sag removal. I actually gained 3/4" of actual "lift," and that's how I always describe it. I don't consider sag removal to be "lift." I'm also disappointed to find that more than one source of new "metric ton" springs seem to produce lift. They shouldn't. The factory MT springs had the same ride height as the standard springs. Any s-called metric ton spring that rides higher than the factory 4WD springs IMHO isn't made correctly, and should be sold as a lift spring rather than as a "metric ton" spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Image Not Found My truck sits exactly the way I want it. I work off my tailgate a lot, load and unload tools daily. My rear axle is still shifted to the driver's side by about 3/4" and I just cannot stand it anymore. I had it jacked up from the rear bumper last week and the axle, wheels to body, hang centered. When there is weight on springs the axle shifts to the driver's side. The only thing I can figure is there is some sort of fatigue causing the springs to curve sideways under load. That's the only reason I want to get new springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87MJTIM Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 That's not 3" of lift, then. "Lift" is a change upward from the factory ride height. Eagle, you are correct. I should not have stated that I have 3" of lift above original factory ride height. I should have said that I have 3" of rise above the 25 yrs old sagging height. My measurement is an estimate. I did not take before and after height changes. I est. 3" because I had installed 2" spacers up front and still have a slight rake (more than original), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted January 9, 2015 Author Share Posted January 9, 2015 Did I read somewhere that GS offers a club discount? Was there a name of someone to contact? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 When I ordered mine, I just called and asked them about the discount. I think it was around 5% off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Order Details: Code Item Qty Price Grand Total 97-553 1986 - 1992 Jeep Comanche rear leaf spring, 4(3/1) leaf, 1280 lbs capacity 2 $125.00 $250.00 Subtotal: $250.00 Tax: $0.00 Shipping Cost: $75.30 Grand Total: $325.30 :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Co-MAAAN-cheee Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I bought from general in dec 2014. Told him I heard they would give a Comanche club discount. I bought standard springs. He gave me $9 off per spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsmith Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 GS MT springs on the rear, OME 630 coils up front, OME shocks all around. Overall 2 to 2-1/2 inch lift after settling in. Rides and handles much better than stock. The shock selection was the key for me. Tried Monroes, Bilsteins, and OME. Monroes too soft and wallowy, Bilsteins fine if you like a buckboard ride, OMEs were perfect. Plenty of room for 31" tires to finish it off w. zero rubbing. The stance is right for me. My last ever rear leaf spring question response.......I promise. :rotfl2: Hornbrod, Will you tell me exactly what springs and shocks your ordered from OME? I believe I'm finally to a point to address my sagging suspension and blown shocks. Yours is a stance I would be very happy with. Here is how she stands now, with 30's. I can tell, just by looking, that the drivers coil spring is collapsed more than the passenger's, creating a touch of catti-wumpus. When I had an alignment done, they confirmed that it was indeed more collapsed. It had been wrecked on the drivers side when I got ahold of it, which likely explains that. I've read that I can use the springs out of a v8 SJ to prop it up bit more than stock. How would they compare to the OME springs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 GS MT springs on the rear, OME 930 coils up front (~2"-3" lift) Front Shocks: (In order of my preference) OME Nitrocharger Sport 60046 Light Load (13.15"- 22.24") OME Nitrocharger N35 (13.70"-22.36") OME Nitrocharger N39, (13.46 - 22.13) Rear Shocks: (In order of my preference) OME Nitrocharger N40L (15.6"-25.8") (ZJ shock, hard to find)OME Nitrocharger N30 (14.4"-24.3")* (96-05 Nissan Terrano R20) OME Nitrocharger N95 (14.13" - 23.58") (Toyota Land Cruiser) I don't think any other coil spring or shock compares to ARB / OME products. Of course, I haven't tried them all, but tried quite a few. Looking at your rig, a pair of OME 930 coils (now called OME 2930 coils) up front with new isolators will have you sitting pretty. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsmith Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 GS MT springs on the rear, OME 930 coils up front (~2"-3" lift) Front Shocks: (In order of my preference) OME Nitrocharger Sport 60046 Light Load (13.15"- 22.24") OME Nitrocharger N35 (13.70"-22.36") OME Nitrocharger N39, (13.46 - 22.13) Rear Shocks: (In order of my preference) OME Nitrocharger N40L (15.6"-25.8") (ZJ shock, hard to find) OME Nitrocharger N30 (14.4"-24.3")* (96-05 Nissan Terrano R20) OME Nitrocharger N95 (14.13" - 23.58") (Toyota Land Cruiser) I don't think any other coil spring or shock compares to ARB / OME products. Of course, I haven't tried them all, but tried quite a few. Looking at your rig, a pair of OME 930 coils (now called OME 2930 coils) up front with new isolators will have you sitting pretty. :cheers: Thank you sir. I really appreciate you spelling it out. To clarify, this will net me a bit of lift, but not enough to need to replace the typical components of a 'lift kit' such as U/L CA's, brackets, etc.? Are there any ARB/OME vendors that are friendly to Comanche Club and willing to give any break on list price? Thanks again. Your truck is up there with my favorites on here; very classy. Mine has a ways to go. I did get the heater working over the weekend; baby steps. :) Line of questioning moved to the more relevant 'favorite coil spring thread'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Thank you. The 930 (now 2930) OME front coils (160lb spring rate) with new stock isolators netted me 2-1/2" over what it was, and I looked about to be the same as you are now. Another option is the OME 2933 coils (140lb spring rate) for a bit softer ride, but not sure if you would get the same amount of lift. Your positive caster angle will decrease maybe 2*-3*, but an additional 1/8" thick shim packed behind the LCA will correct the caster back to normal. You may or may not need an adjustable track bar. My axle shifted about 3/4", so I got one and corrected the shift. I order directly from ARB USA in WA since I have a track record there and get a little bit off as compared to the vendor's prices. Northridge 4x4 also has good ARB/OME promotions occasionally. I picked up a full set of shocks for my JK at almost 50% off during one of their promos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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