Sad Day For My Mj

[Tactical Bacon]

Well, after searching for a year and owning it for less than a month, someone ran a red and nailed my MJ in the side. She hit the right rear tire dead center at about 50 mph. Broke the leaf and shock on the passenger side, knocked out the driveshaft, (fairly certain) it ruined the bed, cracked the windshield, Broke the tail light assembly, and took the last leg out from under my slave cylinder. So, since I just got some college money and suspension components need to be replaced, I decided I'm going to go ahead and lift it and put some 30x9.5s on it. If anyone has recommendations on parts to go after or avoid, please enlighten me. I'm looking for some moderate lift (3-5") but want to avoid AAL kits and (for now) going SOA. I was eyeballing Rusty's Offroad 4.5" lift kit but Ive read a lot of bad things about their products online. Also, is there anything I should look for in particular on the vehicle while repairing/upgrading it? So, please help me save the Bacon because I don't want to let my Jeep get scrapped or just sit there unused.

As it sits, my plan is to replace rear fand front suspension components with lift components, replace the gear oil in the differential and inspect the internal components, drop the transmission, replace the clutch and slave cylinder, replace the gear oil in the transmission, have my driveshaft inspected then re-install it, then, depending on finances, either have the alignment done or buy new tires (thinking of some Firestone A/Ts) and have that all done.

[ParadiseMJ]

The title of your post says it all.  It's certainly sad when one of our trucks gets smashed up.  Hope you or anyone else did not get hurt.

 

T-boned at 50 MPH and the bed frame isn't bent beyond repair??  I find that amazing.  I don't mean to be pessimistic but 50 MPH will do more damage than can reasonably be fixed.

 

"depending on finances" ....  You'll be money ahead looking for another truck IMHO.  Sounds like an S-ton of work and quite a bit of money on a truck worth $3-5 grand...and with a salvage title at that.

 

Got any pictures??

[Tactical Bacon]

Pulled muscle in my neck and back spasms. The lying [expletive] that hit me can go swing from a tree. Green light my hairy @$$.

 

I'm thinking the tire absorbed some of the impact because it's flat now. That and the leaf springs on the other side are knocked halfway off their perch. Near as I can tell, the impact forces when through the axle and knocked it over to the side. Spun me pretty good, too. As far as the frame goes, it looks fairly straight from under it but I can't be for certain until I take the bed off.

 

Yeah, I probably would be better off finding another one, but I want to try my best to save the Bacon. These trucks are already scarce enough and I don't want the Jeep Community to have to lose another one.

 

Pictures will come once I can get my camera connected to my computer and my computer connected to the internet all at once.

[RynoMJ]

There's a very good chance that frame is bent at 50mph.

[92tanMJ]

Yep bud youre not saving that truck, sorry to say it, but its time to part that one out and go find another one.

 

And to post pictures you need to use a photobucket or one of those type sites.

[mpace6a]

Yep bud youre not saving that truck, sorry to say it, but its time to part that one out and go find another one.

 

And to post pictures you need to use a photobucket or one of those type sites.

Ehhhh....cut the frame, make a truggy? Then who cares if its bent or not!

And a bent frame can still be fixed, professionally or otherwise. Tboned some tweakers that ran a red light, driving a 97 dodge doing ~45 when i hit em, tweaked the drivers side of the frame about 2". Was pulled back out, and tracks straighter now than it did pre-accident.

 

Just went back and re read the original post. If the impact broke the windshield, its safe to say the frame and unibody are both bent pretty bad. If your unibody is tweaked the truck is pretty much effed. can't really straighten a unibody.

[92tanMJ]

 

Yep bud youre not saving that truck, sorry to say it, but its time to part that one out and go find another one.

 

And to post pictures you need to use a photobucket or one of those type sites.

Ehhhh....cut the frame, make a truggy? Then who cares if its bent or not!

And a bent frame can still be fixed, professionally or otherwise. Tboned some tweakers that ran a red light, driving a 97 dodge doing ~45 when i hit em, tweaked the drivers side of the frame about 2". Was pulled back out, and tracks straighter now than it did pre-accident.

 

Just went back and re read the original post. If the impact broke the windshield, its safe to say the frame and unibody are both bent pretty bad. If your unibody is tweaked the truck is pretty much effed. can't really straighten a unibody.

:nuts: :doh: :rotf:  

 

 

But yeah if it knocked out the driveshaft, which easily messed up his transmission, and cracked the windshield. His truck is done for. No two ways about it. No insurance company is going to pay to get that fixed, it will get totaled out. And if he chooses to buy it back it will cost a lot more to get it fixed than what theyre going to give him for it. IMO if it was me, I would buy it back get as much money for it as possible. Buy another truck, part out the wrecked, one then scrap it. :dunno:

[mpace6a]

 

 

Yep bud youre not saving that truck, sorry to say it, but its time to part that one out and go find another one.

 

And to post pictures you need to use a photobucket or one of those type sites.

Ehhhh....cut the frame, make a truggy? Then who cares if its bent or not!

And a bent frame can still be fixed, professionally or otherwise. Tboned some tweakers that ran a red light, driving a 97 dodge doing ~45 when i hit em, tweaked the drivers side of the frame about 2". Was pulled back out, and tracks straighter now than it did pre-accident.

 

Just went back and re read the original post. If the impact broke the windshield, its safe to say the frame and unibody are both bent pretty bad. If your unibody is tweaked the truck is pretty much effed. can't really straighten a unibody.

:nuts: :doh: :rotf:  

 

 

But yeah if it knocked out the driveshaft, which easily messed up his transmission, and cracked the windshield. His truck is done for. No two ways about it. No insurance company is going to pay to get that fixed, it will get totaled out. And if he chooses to buy it back it will cost a lot more to get it fixed than what theyre going to give him for it. IMO if it was me, I would buy it back get as much money for it as possible. Buy another truck, part out the wrecked, one then scrap it. :dunno:

Not necessarily on the drive shaft...if it broke his springs (I'm assuming he means the ubolts or maybe the shackles?), it could have twisted enough and just dropped out. Usually you have to hit the driveshaft dead on and hard to grenade the transmission. Just a possibility...but I'm kinda arguing for the sake of the arguement at this point. Regardless its probably totaled, and if the unibody is that warped, there's probably nothing good that hasnt been tweaked slightly aside from the interior.

[MancheKid86]

first off,

you didnt get witnesses?

if she is at fault, you should have atleast if not more than one witness,

 

and sounds like it may be pooched, but pics will tell

 

 

zack, there is the possibility that that bolts that hold the drive shaft in on the straps which are designed to shear let go,

 

need pics!

[92tanMJ]

first off,

you didnt get witnesses?

if she is at fault, you should have atleast if not more than one witness,

 

and sounds like it may be pooched, but pics will tell

 

 

zack, there is the possibility that that bolts that hold the drive shaft in on the straps which are designed to shear let go,

 

need pics!

 

Gotcha, I didnt know that. and times two on the pictures

[Tactical Bacon]

 

 

 

Yep bud youre not saving that truck, sorry to say it, but its time to part that one out and go find another one.

 

And to post pictures you need to use a photobucket or one of those type sites.

Ehhhh....cut the frame, make a truggy? Then who cares if its bent or not!

And a bent frame can still be fixed, professionally or otherwise. Tboned some tweakers that ran a red light, driving a 97 dodge doing ~45 when i hit em, tweaked the drivers side of the frame about 2". Was pulled back out, and tracks straighter now than it did pre-accident.

 

Just went back and re read the original post. If the impact broke the windshield, its safe to say the frame and unibody are both bent pretty bad. If your unibody is tweaked the truck is pretty much effed. can't really straighten a unibody.

:nuts: :doh: :rotf:  

 

 

But yeah if it knocked out the driveshaft, which easily messed up his transmission, and cracked the windshield. His truck is done for. No two ways about it. No insurance company is going to pay to get that fixed, it will get totaled out. And if he chooses to buy it back it will cost a lot more to get it fixed than what theyre going to give him for it. IMO if it was me, I would buy it back get as much money for it as possible. Buy another truck, part out the wrecked, one then scrap it. :dunno:

Not necessarily on the drive shaft...if it broke his springs (I'm assuming he means the ubolts or maybe the shackles?), it could have twisted enough and just dropped out. Usually you have to hit the driveshaft dead on and hard to grenade the transmission. Just a possibility...but I'm kinda arguing for the sake of the arguement at this point. Regardless its probably totaled, and if the unibody is that warped, there's probably nothing good that hasnt been tweaked slightly aside from the interior.

The impact broke the actual leaf itself that bolts to the vehicle along with breaking the the shock in two. And it sheared the bolts on one of the u-bolt straps and bent the piss out of the other.

 

first off,

you didnt get witnesses?

if she is at fault, you should have atleast if not more than one witness,

 

and sounds like it may be pooched, but pics will tell

 

 

zack, there is the possibility that that bolts that hold the drive shaft in on the straps which are designed to shear let go,

 

need pics!

It was 10 p.m. on a Saturday night. I was surprised the one pedestrian witness was there. The other traffic that was waiting there had their thumbs up their asses and they weren't paying any attention. The witness supported my story but that means dick-all when the other person is black in my area.

[Zebvance]

post pictures!

[92tanMJ]

post pictures!

:agree:

[MancheKid86]

:needpics:

 

sorry had to, havent used it in a while

[Minuit]

:needpics:

[Eagle]

Get the bed off and check both the frame and the cab unibody carefully before you spend anything on it. I'm with the group that says it's not going to be repaired. If you collect anything for it, you'll spend that and more just getting the frame and unibody straightened -- there won't be any left over for a lift.

[Tactical Bacon]

Good news and bad news. Good news: Frame isn't bent. Crack in the windshield was just where a crack that was at the bottom spread out. Tire and suspension absorbed most of the impact. Bad news: They ruled in the other person's favor (big surprise there...) and I just finished moving so I'm too broke to buy the parts that I need. But it shall live once again!

[mvusse]

Hope you got the witness' contact info and take it to court.

[gogmorgo]

My advice right now, as a college student: college money should be spent on college... if you need a vehicle, get a cheap econobox and save up your money for fixing the MJ if you can.

Seriously sucks about your MJ. And dumbass drivers. I've a had a couple pretty close calls myself with idiots running reds, only I was never in my MJ at the time. Don't know what I'd do if something happened to mine. MPI would likely cut me a check for $100 and I'd be @#$%ed without a vehicle and a 10 mile trip to school... Hope that's not an issue for you!!

[Tactical Bacon]

Well college money is already gone thanks to moving bills. Talk about an unexpected expense. As far as going to court with witness testimony goes, it's worthless in this area b/c the pedestrian witness is white, I'm white, and the person that hit me is black. Nothing against black people or anything, this area just has a bad case of the "atonement for our ancestors" bull$#!& going on. I even have diagrams and mathematical proof based on speeds and times between events that prove that she had to have been doing 50 and run a red to hit me and nobody even batted an eye at it.

 

As far as getting a gas saver goes, that's what the Jeep's role was, to save me gas money. I can barely afford to feed my Firebird the premium that it needs. I'm just glad the frame on it isn't bent. Right now I'm looking at about $350 to get it on the road again (new leaf, shock, u joints and u joint strap kit, and clutch set).