comancheman Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 this weekend i plan on putting my 5.5 in re coils under the mj with re adj LCAs. eventually i plan on gettin CA drop brackets and adj UCAs. i know I'm gonna have to do something with the trackbar as soon as i put the coils in. what would be the result of removing the trackbar entirely. i DO NOT plan on driving it more then in and out of the garage without the trackbar. but i just wanted to make sure nothing else will happen if i do this until money allows me to buy a trackbar. what are people using for their trackbars? the JKS and RE look nice but I'm not sure if the RE will work for the amount of lift i have. i also want to be able to adjust it to accomodate up to 7.5 inches of lift just because i have the spacers already and can't always control myself. thanks, tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 i'd just wait until you have all the parts to put the coils in. that way you can make a day of it and be done, with no worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 what would be the result of removing the trackbar entirely. thanks, tim The inability to steer. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comancheman Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 why wouldnt i be able to steer? none of the steering linkage is attached to the trackbar. I'm not questioning the wisdom of pete the jeep God, just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakal Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 some of the young guys that have dedicated mud rigs are going with no track bar. when asked how does it drive they say.ahh, ok. all you can do is walk away. darwin rides on :jump: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNL1MTD Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 why wouldnt i be able to steer? none of the steering linkage is attached to the trackbar. I'm not questioning the wisdom of pete the jeep God, just curious. the track bar holds the jeep in the same position parallel to the axle. everything else in your suspension with a typical 4 link from jeep front ends doesn't do anything for lateral stability ... maybe your sway bar. so without it your front end will give once you turn and your tires won't really move, but your front clip will. so you can't steer. Your gear box will turn and just push your frame away from or pull towards the passenger side connection of the draglink. I broke my track bar on my LJ at Rausch Creek and steering through boulders was a nightmare, not to mention my ghetto fix and 4 hour drive home. Not sure if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Essentially, your draglink pushes against your track bar. Without the trackbar, it just pushes your body to the side. If you keep turning the steering wheel eventually you might get enough resistance to move the tires a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 what are people using for their trackbars? the JKS and RE look nice but I'm not sure if the RE will work for the amount of lift i have. i also want to be able to adjust it to accomodate up to 7.5 inches of lift just because i have the spacers already and can't always control myself.thanks, tim I've got the Rusty's bar, and it's just been put in with only 2 mild runs on it and some road use. At 5" of lift, the truck rides smooth and the track bar is not what's holding me back. Rusty's says the bar is good for 4-7" of lift, but at 7" I would worry about the tie rod end. The bars you are looking at, do they have heims or tie rod ends on the frame side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rokhound Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 my thought is Rubicon and bracket or Rock Krawler and Bracket and please don't run your MJ without it. I would hate to hear about how you total your truck and killed some one on the road just becouse you thougth it would work........IT WON'T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 If money is tight I would say try the rock krawler bar and bracket. if money is not tight, go with the KEVINS track bar conversion!! Either one converts the frame end to a FAR better WJ design. Check out my post in rigs for pics and further explinations.. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakal Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 i bought mine from kevinsoffroad. came with bracket, mounting hard wear. workmanship ex. it was bent at the proper angle. removed rustie's and put it on my mj. so long bump steer. modified it for mj.http:// i just realized this is before i modified it. see how low it is. i will take a pic tommorow and post it here.http:// this a rusties bracket, a little light, but i'm going to box it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Don't mean to threadjack, and I'll think it'll improve the thread: What's everyone's thought on running a johnny joint on the frame end? I think a bushing would bind too much, and a standard heim would bring too much yuk to the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jared Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 the bushing on the frame end isn't mounted like the factory TRE with the bolt vertical, it would be horizontal and aloow a lot more axle droop than the TRE or jonny joint. if you only moveing the vehicle a few feet and only in a straight line i guess you could do that without a track bar, but you would be better off with it. and you can only drive without a trackbar on a front leaf sprung vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jared Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 i have a jks trackbar. and 4.5 inched of front lift. the TRE on the frame mount went bad on my 2nd off road trip with it. it pops when turning and stuff. not good. i am ordering the rustys hd frame braket and the bushing end, so it will last longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 the bushing on the frame end isn't mounted like the factory TRE with the bolt vertical, it would be horizontal and aloow a lot more axle droop than the TRE or jonny joint. I was curious about a Johnny joint over a bushing mainly, in case there would be any benefit in the panhard set-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakal Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 i own a older bmw and have been a member of the national club for ten yrs. this topic has gone around the whole time. the over all opinion is of racers. rally boys, and track hounds that drive street and track, rubber for the street and light duty track use, urethane in any form for the dedicated track junkies. the reasoning: the suspension provides better ride with rubber more flex. my own experience has shown this to be true. for the three off road and street use trucks i've owned this has been true also. i started with the stock rubber, then the old urethane compounds, graphite ones, now i'm testing the new compounds for ride and flex. mine mj is going to be my only vehicle. all street, and trips for prerunning hundreds of miles off road, then driving home to go to work . for motor and transmission i use black urethane. little more vibration, but flex is reduced considerably. until i design a new linkage for shifting into 4wheel, it works better with urethane. hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnuck Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 I have a Rough Country adjustable trac bar (got it on Ebay from this guy with item # 170091559565) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroader461 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 i got a superlift adj track bar on mine and it works good but I'm going to be upgrading and selling this one as soon as i get some money.....probably kevins offroad or rustys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comancheman Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 would it droop enough to keep it on with the 5.5 in coils or will i definetly have to get a new one. i don't plan on driving it at all until a the track bar is replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 would it droop enough to keep it on with the 5.5 in coils or will i definetly have to get a new one. i don't plan on driving it at all until a the track bar is replaced. If you mean running the stock bar, no. Mine hit at 5". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEThomas Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Did not get to check it out, buy I was looking through the JCW book that came in the mail the other day and seen RC adjustable track bars for $69 and shipping is free or cheep on most items. Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeff87 Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 Per the JCW website, it's 89.99. Can anyone comment on the RC bar? That $$$ is right in my budget (cheap!): http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Prod ... t=trackbar Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEThomas Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 I will check when I get home and see if I can find the sale book and info. I know whne I was looking at it I was wondering what was wrong with it at the low price. Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CEThomas Posted March 23, 2007 Share Posted March 23, 2007 OK, JC Whitney Catalog # 718J-03 Page # 53 Item# MH267206 Rough County adjustable track Bar $69.99 Charles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comancheman Posted March 23, 2007 Author Share Posted March 23, 2007 anyone running the rockkrawler track bar? it looks nice and fits my budget, kind of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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