jimoshel Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 It's no secret that I would like to add a diesel powered MJ to my fleet. My neighbor just revealed to me that he has a 1983 MB 240D in his garage he has no use for. He suggested a possible trade for one of my MJ'S. Anybody here familiar with anyone doing the sawap? Or know of it having been done? I'm not to hot on giving up a MJ but maybe I can interest him in a XJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpdriver1 Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 have looked into this a little bit myself diesel conversion Mercedes Diesel 4x4.com OM617 Jeep Conversion Kits Mercedes OM617 - Diesel Bombers Cummins 4BT & Diesel Conversions Forums 4Bt/6Bt - MJ Tech - Comanche Club Forums 4BTA powered 92 Comanche build specs 4BT Cummins Diesel Specs Cummins A2300T Swapped in Jeep Cherokee Jeep Diesel Conversion Jeep Diesel Conversion Dieseltoys-Toyota and Jeep Diesel Conversions Jeep Diesel Conversion by Jeff Daniel's Jeep Customizing Mercedes Diesel 4x4.com OM617 Jeep Conversion Kits Jeep Cherokee 2.8L Turbo Diesel Conversion - Motor Mounts - Diesel Power Magazine My Neighbor's 40 MPG Jeep Wrangler Diesel Conversion HPA Motorsports Inc. - Jeep TDI Conversion Packages Easy Jeep VW TDI Diesel Swap | Editorials Blog & Discussion at Jp Magazine vw diesel conversion kit for samurai, jeep? - JeepForum.com diesel swap 2 is it legal to swap a diesel into a jeep in calif - Yahoo! Search Results California Engine Swap Laws | eHow.com Diesel Swap kit Jeep mercedes diesel swap? Mercedes OM617 5 cyl Turbo Diesel engine swap to Jeep Wrangler YJ conversion - Diesel Bombers Build-up: Jeep YJ w/ Isuzu diesel - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum Ca engine swap emissions question - LS1TECH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 http://www.dieselbombers.com/diesel-engine-conversions/15577-mercedes-om617.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaucho919 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I am in the process of building a MB turbo diesel '86 MJ. The engine swap is done and it fits like it belongs in there. The main hurdles are the motor mounts, oil pan/steering bars clearance and oil cooler mounting. I used hydraulic Ford F150 motor mounts for the 300 six. 6" lift and an extreme drop pitman arm and I still had to notch the pan. Used the AX-15 transmission with the adapter from mercedesdiesel4x4.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 I always admire neat workmanship. Thanks for the tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddmodman Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Hey if you did it, let us know! I'm ALWAYS interested in diesel conversion, in anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrawombat Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 The 240D is usually known to be the best MB diesel in terms of fuel economy, but it's also pretty under powered. You're looking at maybe 65HP and 100 Ft-Lb of torque. With the amount of effort involved to do these kinds of swaps, I'd look for something with a little bit more get up and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddmodman Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I can't remember where I saw it but I remember seeing an MJ that someone stuffed the 4bt's smaller brother in, the 3.3bt, the industrial engine. That engine is a bit smaller, but weighs similar to our 4.0s, and he was mighty impressed with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpace6a Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 I can't remember where I saw it but I remember seeing an MJ that someone stuffed the 4bt's smaller brother in, the 3.3bt, the industrial engine. That engine is a bit smaller, but weighs similar to our 4.0s, and he was mighty impressed with it. Wonder what it costs compared to the 4bt.... Also there was a thread from someone on here who did an om617 swap...don't remember much about it other than good details were few and far between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnj92131 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 If you are looking for om617 jeep conversion information and adaptors, take a look at this site: http://www.mercedesdiesel4x4.com/ Understand the Comanche om617 conversion on here was destroyed in Catrina I can't remember where I saw it but I remember seeing an MJ that someone stuffed the 4bt's smaller brother in, the 3.3bt, the industrial engine. That engine is a bit smaller, but weighs similar to our 4.0s, and he was mighty impressed with it. Wonder what it costs compared to the 4bt.... Also there was a thread from someone on here who did an om617 swap...don't remember much about it other than good details were few and far between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpace6a Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 I am in the process of building a MB turbo diesel '86 MJ. The engine swap is done and it fits like it belongs in there. The main hurdles are the motor mounts, oil pan/steering bars clearance and oil cooler mounting. I used hydraulic Ford F150 motor mounts for the 300 six. 6" lift and an extreme drop pitman arm and I still had to notch the pan. Used the AX-15 transmission with the adapter from mercedesdiesel4x4.com. Any chance you have a build thread anywhere on this mj? Seems like a good upgrade from the 2.8 in my 86, just trying to find out more about the swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellaheep Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Interesting. Not sure that I'd be a fan of that extended front clip and what that's gonna look like. Wonder if that E-300 engine is any good........ ? http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/4263916146.html Jeep Cherokee Mercedes Diesel Conversions Northwest Diesel Offroad is now offering 89-2001 Jeep Cherokee Diesel Conversions. Diesel conversions using the bullet proof OM 617 Mercedes 5 cylinder Diesel. These engines are the finest diesel engine Mercedes has ever made. The are durable and trouble free, and no electronics to worry about.. They can also be run on alternative fuels, turnkey special order vehicles available. Conversions can be done on the AX-15 5 speed or automatic using a GM transmission. Please call for details, serious inquires only. http://www.northwestdieseloffroad.com Pictures are a custom installation of a 99 Mercedes E-300 210 Diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 Well,,,It's different. Not sure I care for the add on in front either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ride172 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/4262584360.html Here you go Jim ... diesel ready to bolt in.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 Contacted the gentleman. Just might have something going here. Thanks for the tip :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oyaji Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The stock SD22 naturally-aspirated engine is pretty weak at just 65 HP, according to the Wiki article, but I expect the turbocharger adds a fair bit of kick. What I found attractive about this setup is that the seller has already done all the work: it is complete and ready to bolt in... and he claims 42 highway MPG with it in his XJ. Such would just make me wave and smile all the more at the traffic zoom-zooming by me. :D I wish I could be so lucky as to find a similar setup for sale at similar price within 500 miles. I sure think it is worth a hard look, and if it seemed all the seller claims, I'd buy it if I were you, Jim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherokee1989 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 We have an MJ with an Volvo D24 TIC engine still using the AW4 automatric running around here. Owner use it with an Meyer snow plow in the winter and it works good. Another friend of me have an MJ with an Nissan 2.7 TD engine and 5 speed and transfercase out of an -88 Nissan Pickup. It fits realy good only thing to remold was the radiator support and make new engine mounts in the engine bay and redo the electrics, and we made an new fuel tank to replace the rusted out original. I will try to get some pics of it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanchemodder Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I can't remember where I saw it but I remember seeing an MJ that someone stuffed the 4bt's smaller brother in, the 3.3bt, the industrial engine. That engine is a bit smaller, but weighs similar to our 4.0s, and he was mighty impressed with it. Its here on CC!! http://comancheclub.com/topic/40407-cummins-b33-powered-mj-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyballer16 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I can't remember where I saw it but I remember seeing an MJ that someone stuffed the 4bt's smaller brother in, the 3.3bt, the industrial engine. That engine is a bit smaller, but weighs similar to our 4.0s, and he was mighty impressed with it. Its here on CC!! http://comancheclub.com/topic/40407-cummins-b33-powered-mj-build/ I was about to post my link....mine isn't done yet but is coming along. I don't think there is a write up of one in a Comanche. My motors (2 Cummins B3.3s)cost me $4400. They are harder to come by for "cheap". O thought that was pretty cheap considering they are $5000 each new for not even a running motor. And mine had 0 hours on thrm, never been fired up before. Read my build... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/4262584360.html Here you go Jim ... diesel ready to bolt in.. I've sent the guy 3 emails. No response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 Just talked to the guy. Going over Fri and get it. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ride172 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It wasn't a very old add. Maybe he was just waiting in line for some recreational weed. Edit- I missed your second post stating he called you back .. I hope it works for you.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrawombat Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Excellent, Jim. Please take lots of pictures of the setup - I've always been a fan of the SD22 engine. With the proper gearing it should be more than adequate for a DD MJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHC1 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The MB 240D engine will at best make 68 hp, I've owned a few of the cars and while fun, they're slooooow. Unfortunately, there's no torque upside either. Great engines, but that's a lot of work to go through to be unhappy with the performance. Milage - maybe, maybe mid-20's. If you go for a OM617 turbo you'd get around 125hp, however, check the engine carefully, they are long-lived, but if there's oil anywhere it shouldn't be find another one, overhauls are very expensive. Upside on both - easy to work on, parts readily available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neohic Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 ... 1981 Nissan SD22 diesel engine... Anyone know if this is the same SD22 used in forklifts? ... I've always been a fan of the SD22 engine... Could you give us a quick run down on the pros/cons on thing engine? Not sure why I'm intrigued by this right now... found some information on it, but always nice to hear from someone who knows some stuff about things and such. :idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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