MJ86YJ90 Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 To me it seems like it takes a little too long for the mj to start. I turn the key seems like it cranks about 4 times before it kicks over and starts. Does this seem about norm?
MJ86YJ90 Posted October 27, 2010 Author Posted October 27, 2010 great i was just praying something else wasnt breaking the H2 turns over as soon as i hit the key. but now i know i have a good battery and alt 4 cranks is good for me
Geonovast Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 The H2 isn't 24 years old and has a much smarter computer.
jpdocdave Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 All the renix jeeps do it, I once had a customer try to fix that, replaced every part under the sun down to the computer. The renix jeeps take a couple extra cranks to start, the HO jeeps do not though, if its 91 or later there's a problem
airspeed Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 My 88 2.5 cranks 4-5 times before it will start. In the cold it will idle slow for about 5 seconds then ramp up to a fast idle. The engine seems to be fairly smooth and driveable, even when cold.
dunl Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 My 89 would crank for what seemed forever compared to normal engines.....drove completely fine.
summerinmaine Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 IIRC from reading the Renix manual there are two "modes of operation" that proceed in sequence: "Key on" mode and then "crank" mode. During the key on mode, the fuel pump relay is energized and the ECU completes the circuit for up to three seconds to prime and build up pressure in the fuel log. Then, once crank mode is engaged, the ECU determines if proper cranking speed is achieved, and "learns" the location of cylinder 1 or 6 to begin the firing order and the injector sequence. One consequence is that if you turn the key from "off" straight to the start position, it may actually take a bit longer to start because you rushed the priming of the fuel log, and might have a lean F/A mixture for the first few ignition signals. I just finished reading the manual last week, so I hope I retained that info correctly. :smart:
knever3 Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 ^^^^ I agree if you prime the ignition aka fuel pump before cranking it starts faster.
SW86 Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 yup mine does it about four times too and i always turn my key on first before i start. pretty much just wait for the last "click" or noise, before attempting to turn it on.
Matt1971 Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 My 87 usually starts in 5-6 cranks, always starts and runs great. So if it's starting after 4 cranks your good.
james750 Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 My MJ takes 4-8 turns to start, always has. The 97+ XJ's (have three of them in the family) used to always start on the first 2 cranks, but now two of them have fuel pumps that do not prime to operating PSI at key on and they take 10-20 cranks to start if the pressure on the fuel rail has depleted. If they were mine (these ones are my parents) I would have replaced the pump, but they have been running it on the old fuel pump now for about 3 years on one of them and 1 on the other with no other problems.
Blue XJ Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 My 87 usually starts in 5-6 cranks, always starts and runs great. So if it's starting after 4 cranks your good. x2 except mines a 90.
btm24 Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Its kinda like warming up the glow plugs in a diesel truck Brandon
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