now........what do i do about this? wheel spacers?

[STERLING STINGER]

this need to come out a good 3" to match my front tires.

spacers?

i never even seen a spacer, so i might need a little help here.

whats the best one to get?

how do they go on, etc.

thanks

paul

 

[ParadiseMJ]

Remove wheel. Bolt on. Admire. Replace wheel. Admire. Drive!!!

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-93-Je ... ccessories

[STERLING STINGER]

what is it not recomended to go past 1.5"?

[freakjeep93]

ive heard that if you put to big of a spacer on its hard on wheel bearings.

[STERLING STINGER]

my bearings prob havent been changed ever either.

[64 Cheyenne]

Remove wheel. Bolt on. Admire. Replace wheel. Admire. Drive!!!

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/86-93-Je ... ccessories

 

Nooooooo, don't buy those! They are not "hubcentric". The force of the load rides on the wheel studs, and the wheel studs only....

Bad.

 

These are what I use: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HUBCENTR ... ccessories

 

See the difference? the load is on the hub, not on the studs.

Check their store, they have different widths. I bought a set for my 8.8 with stock Jeep wheels :thumbsup:

[dasbulliwagen]

Or you can just ignore it... been that way it whole life! :thumbsup:

[mvusse]

Spidertrax makes good quality hub centric spacers as well.

[ParadiseMJ]

Nooooooo, don't buy those! They are not "hubcentric". The force of the load rides on the wheel studs, and the wheel studs only....

Bad.

 

These are what I use: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HUBCENTR ... ccessories

 

See the difference? the load is on the hub, not on the studs.

Check their store, they have different widths. I bought a set for my 8.8 with stock Jeep wheels :thumbsup:

 

Well, actually I don't see the difference. My stock wheels...all the load is on the studs. I was just using these as an example anyway. I did buy the hubcentric ones 4 or so years ago for the XJ.

 

One more note. Make sure youe have enough stud sticking out to accommodate the spacer. On my MJ there was only 5/8" of stud...and the spacer lug holes bottomed out with only about 1/2" to 3/8" of stud left to hold the spacer to the drum/disc. There was not enough stud to catch more than about half the nut, not enough for me, so I swapped out all the studs (on the Jeep, not the spacer) for longer ones.

 

As far as wearing on the bearings, it would not be any different than buying/running wheels with less (or is it more) backspacing. Since that seems to be SOP with Jeeps I'd say it's OK.

[64 Cheyenne]

If a person doesn't know the difference between hubcentric and regular spacers.............

Buy the cheap ones, I tried to explain.

Just remember I told you so......

[STERLING STINGER]

sheesh..i would def get the hubcentric ones if i could find one more than an inch..

[jpnjim]

I just posted this in another thread:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=25639

 

I was going to start a thread on this,

but a good axle swap, to widen up our rear axles, and give *near* D 60 strength in one of those 'stop sign' 9.25's out of a 1980's Ramcharger/D150.

 

They were 5 on 4.5" for those years (I *think* it was 1975.5 to 1980something, but I'll try to dig out the info),

and it seems like they were around 64" wide.

 

That's like adding 2" spacers, AND getting a much stronger rear axle.

 

They do use C-clips, but they use the same brake/axle end pattern as Mopar/Jeep 8.25's, so disc brake swaps should be just as easy.

(disc brakes will usually keep the wheel from sliding out when you break an axleshaft,

helping to band-aid one of the problems with C-clip axles).

 

I was thinking about this the other day (for the Grandpa Jeep), and wondering why no one else here has tried it.

Those axles are completely undesired by the full size crowd (because of the 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern), underrated for their size, and 'falling out of tree's' cheap.

 

You could be the first to try it out. ;)

 

Plus, I've seen these axle go for less than what a pair of spacers would cost. :wavey:

[64 Cheyenne]

These ones are 50mm = 1.96 inches

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HUBCENTR ... 519231bbb1

[STERLING STINGER]

thank you for the link

[Incommando]

Aren't most steel aftermarket wheels, especially the cheaper ones like the d-windows and soft 8, NOT hub centric?

[MrFreeze5]

Spidertrax is the only way to go for Jeep spacers IMO. I used to work there and know that the quality is top notch and the best in the business. Ive also seen the test reports of the materials used in competitors spacers...its not always what it is advertised as! And hubcentric spacers are absolutely needed on the front at least and a very good idea for the rear. don't SKIMP ON WHEEL SPACERS!!!

 

Plus Spidertrax spacers are double anodized which really helps protect both the spacer and the wheel. You have alloy wheels, so its not as big of an issue, but its a no-no to put a bare aluminum against bare steel. Corrosion and nastiness will ensue over time.

 

Spidertrax spacers are the only ones I will ever use for my vehicles. With the exception of 8 lugs spacers. In that case, I would go with Ballistic Fab spacers. Oh, and if hate dealing with companies with poor customer service, then Spidertrax is again the right answer.

[carnuck]

Try 2wd Dodge 1/2 ton (from the late 60's to '70s) 2wd rims. They are offset closer to the outside fenders

[WahooSteeler]

Paul, do a search on here for Spidertrax, and commonly debated topic. As already noted, I would recommend them over something only sold on eBay. They are $100 a pair for new from Quadratec.com and several other retailers, but with a little patience you can score a set on Clist or jeepforum or even eBay for @$50-75. I paid $70 for mine shipped from a guy on jeepforum.com

 

Mine are the 1.25" and they are plenty. 1.5" would probably be perfect, but point is, you don't want or need a full 2", that will stick too far I can tell you. I also have Ravines so I'm giving you a true apples to apples opinion. SuperWade2 posted pics of his after he put on the spidertrax and you'll see that will be enough. He does not have Ravines, so I don't know what his offset is. Hornbrod has spacers and Ravines, but I don't know if his are spidertrax. :thumbsup:

[STERLING STINGER]

Paul, do a search on here for Spidertrax, and commonly debated topic. As already noted, I would recommend them over something only sold on eBay. They are $100 a pair for new from Quadratec.com and several other retailers, but with a little patience you can score a set on Clist or jeepforum or even eBay for @$50-75. I paid $70 for mine shipped from a guy on jeepforum.com

 

Mine are the 1.25" and they are plenty. 1.5" would probably be perfect, but point is, you don't want or need a full 2", that will stick too far I can tell you. I also have Ravines so I'm giving you a true apples to apples opinion. SuperWade2 posted pics of his after he put on the spidertrax and you'll see that will be enough. He does not have Ravines, so I don't know what his offset is. Hornbrod has spacers and Ravines, but I don't know if his are spidertrax. :thumbsup:

thank you

[88pioneer]

Hey Jim, you know of any aftermarket support for these axles. Found one for 100 bucks with LS. Guy says its 5x5.5 but either way, i'm really considering this for a rear.

[nitroxsteve]

Aren't most steel aftermarket wheels, especially the cheaper ones like the d-windows and soft 8, NOT hub centric?

 

Its not a problem on the rim as much as it is when using a spacer.