Pete M Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 I'd like to compile a table of all the different combinations of MJ driveline and the length of their rear driveshaft. I need bed length, engine, trans, 2wd/4wd, rear axle and then the length of the rear shaft from center of U-joint to center of U-joint. what we have so far: Quote lwb,_2.8,____tf 3speed,____np207,_amc20= 53"_____d35= 54" lwb,_2.8,____ax5-ax4,______np207,_amc20= 53.75"__d35= 54.75" lwb,_2.8,____ax5-ax4,______2wd,___amc20= 63.75"__d35= 64.75" lwb,_4.0,____aw4,__________np231,,___d44= 47.5"___d35= 48.25" lwb,_4.0,____aw4,__________2wd,,_____d44= ________d35= 59.5" lwb,_4.0,____ax15-ba10/5,__np231,___d44= 49"_____d35= 50" lwb,_4.0,____ax15-ba10/5,__2wd,,_____d44= ________d35= 59.75" swb,_4.0,____aw4,__________np231,___d44= 41.25"__d35= 42.35" swb,_4.0,____aw4,__________2wd,_____d44= 52.125"_d35= 53.125" * swb,_4.0,____ax15-ba10/5,__np231,___d44= 42.25"__d35= 43.25" swb,_4.0,____ax15-ba10/5,__2wd_____d44= 52.125"_d35= 53.125" * lwb,_2.5,____ax5-ax4,______2wd,,_____d44= 63.75"__.d35= 64.75" swb,_2.5,____ax5-ax4,______2wd,_____d44= 57.5"___.d35= 58.5" lwb,_2.5,____ax5-ax4,______np231,,___d44= ________.d35= 53.25" swb,_2.5,____ax5-ax4,______np231,___d44= ________.d35= 47.375" lwb,_2.5,____tf 3speed,____np207,_amc20= 53"_____.d35= 54" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deziped Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 JEEP Short W.B. (Continued) 1990-94 CHEROKEE, COMANCHE, AND WAGONEER 1310 Series, 2.5L Engine, Auto. Trans., TC to FA 915723-1607 53005540 27.970 Not Available 231 T/C, Model 30 Dana Front Axle 1310 Series, 2.1L & 2.5L Eng. Aisen, TC to FA 915723-1318 53005541 25.310 Not Available Man. 5-Spd., 231 T/C, Model 30 Dana Axle 1310 Series, 4.0L Eng. Aisen Warner, TC to FA 915374-1903 53005542 30.660 Not Available 4-Spd. Auto, 231 T/C & 242 T/C, Model 30 Dana Front Axle 1310 Series, 4.0L Eng. Aisen TC to FA 915374-1722 53005543 29.250 Not Available Seiki, Man. 5-Spd., 231/Kanda T/C, Model 30 Dana Axle 1310 Series, 4.0L Eng. Aisen TC to FA 915374-1517 53005544 27.080 Not Available Seiki, Man. 5-Spd., Kanda T/C, Model 44 Dana Axle 1310 Series, 4.0L Eng. Aisen TC to FA 915374-1702 53005545 28.620 Not Available Warner, Auto. 4-Spd., Kanda T/C, Model 44 Dana Axle 1990-91 SENIOR JEEP (GRAND WAGONEER) 1310 Series, 5.9L Eng., 727 Auto. TC to FA 915724-1427 53005539 25.700 Not Available Trans., 229 T/C, Model 44 Dana Axle 1988 CHEROKEE, COMANCHE, AND WAGONEER 1310 Series, 6 Cyl. Eng. Peugeot, TC to FA 915723-1607 8953003912 27.953 909364-2600 16.219 Automatic Trans., Kanda P.t. Trans. Case, 4.11 Axle Ratio 1310 Series, 4 Cyl. Eng. Aisen, 4 & TC to FA 915723-1318 8953003235 25.313 909364-2600 13.563 5-Spd. Manual Trans., 3.55 & 4.11 Axle Ratios, 231 Transfer Case 1310 Series, 6 Cyl. Eng., Auto. Trans., TC to FA 915374-1903 8953005040 30.672 Not Available 242/231 Trans. Cases, 3.55 Axle Ratio 1310 Series, 6 Cyl. Eng. Peugeot, TC to FA 915374-1722 8953005039 29.250 Not Available Automatic Trans., 242/231 Trans, Cases, 3.08 Axle Ra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deziped Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Here's where the front axle measurements above came from: http://www.lunghd.com/Downloads_and_Lin ... 321_CV.pdf Still looking for rear shafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakjeep93 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 ill measure mine tomorrow after i get home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akamcbird Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 THIS IS WRONG! see below (edit) this is what i came up with... comanche rear drive shaft lengts-eye to eye '86 lwb, 2.8, tf 3speed, np207, d35 = 54" lwb, 4.0, AW4, NP231, D44 = 48"....d35 = 47" lwb. 4.0, ax15-ba10/5, np231, d44= 49"....d35 = 48" ax15-ba10/5 (same length) = 1" shorter than aw4 d44, chr8.25 = 1" longer snout than d35 prety sure thats all legit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 this is what i came up with... comanche rear drive shaft lengts-eye to eye '86 lwb, 2.8, tf 3speed, np207, d35 = 54" lwb, 4.0, AW4, NP231, D44 = 48"....d35 = 47" lwb. 4.0, ax15-ba10/5, np231, d44= 49"....d35 = 48" ax15-ba10/5 (same length) = 1" shorter than aw4 d44, chr8.25 = 1" longer snout than d35 prety sure thats all legit... confirmed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akamcbird Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 arg!.... did the maf wrong confirmed :no: revised.... green print is actual measures the rest is mathed out comanche rear drive shaft lengths-eye to eye '86 lwb, 2.8, tf 3speed, np207, d35 = 54" lwb, 4.0, aw4, np231, d44= 48" d35 = 49" lwb, 4.0, ax15-ba10/5, np231, d44= 49" d35 = 50" swb, 4.0, aw4, np231, d44= 41.25" d35 = 42.35" swb, 4.o, ax15-ba10/5, np231, d44= 42.25" d35 = 43.25" ax15-ba10/5 (same length) are 1" shorter than aw4 d44, chr8.25 have a 1" longer snout than d35 can someone re confirm? sorry for the above confusion. amc20 vs d35 snout difference?? 4 BANGERS AND 2WD SPEAK UP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 I'll try to get some numbers off my 86 (4x4/2.8/stick/AMC 20) tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche09 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 This is Great! :banana: In case anyone needs it: 1988 4.0L, BA10/5, DANA 35, SWB, 2WD = 53.125" eye center to center Part # 8953004667 (Still had sticker on it!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Automan2164 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 (Still had sticker on it!) My rusty MJ's hate you clean MJ. :fs1: Rob L. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 QXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyluvv Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 89, SWB, 4.0L, AW4, 2WD, D35 = 53 1/8" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akamcbird Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 89, SWB, 4.0L, AW4, 2WD, D35 = 53 1/8" is that an actual mesure of a stock shaft? i ask because... This is Great! :banana: In case anyone needs it: 1988 4.0L, BA10/5, DANA 35, SWB, 2WD = 53.125" eye center to center Part # 8953004667 (Still had sticker on it!) posted in green and has a manual, (your shaft should be an inch longer) or is his shaft the wrong one? (not original? wich would explain the intact sticker) also...2.5 came with an ax15 behind it? news to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 XQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQXQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akamcbird Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I have an all original, to the best of my knowledge, 1989 short bed, 2WD, 2.5 and AISEN AX15 and Dana 35. I measured it. I did not use a protracter or anything to insure paralellism. I just eyeballed it but did it very carefully. I will concede there might be a 1/8 in error ineither measurement for a possible 1/4 in total error. If you like I can remeasure and double check. Jim now your adding to the confusion.... i wasnt disputing your numbers but those of shelbyluvv or comanche09 because they both had the same drive shaft measurements and different trannys, which are an inch different in length. meaning there should be a difference in drive shaft measurements.... unlesss they have different length tailpiece :dunno: anybody? now I'm really confused. the "also" statement was because i didnt know the 2.5 came with the ax15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 the "also" statement was because i didnt know the 2.5 came with the ax15 You didn't know because it didn't come with it. The 2.5 was offered with an AX-5 or AX-4. The only way to get an AX-15 behind a 2.5 is to use a 93+ 2.5 5 speed Dakota bellhousing. The later 2.5 Dakotas were offered with the AX-15... but not very many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyluvv Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 89, SWB, 4.0L, AW4, 2WD, D35 = 53 1/8" is that an actual mesure of a stock shaft? i ask because... This is Great! :banana: In case anyone needs it: 1988 4.0L, BA10/5, DANA 35, SWB, 2WD = 53.125" eye center to center Part # 8953004667 (Still had sticker on it!) posted in green and has a manual, (your shaft should be an inch longer) or is his shaft the wrong one? (not original? wich would explain the intact sticker) also...2.5 came with an ax15 behind it? news to me I measured it last night. It is the stock shaft out of my truck. There may be a 1/8" here or there but that is what it measured to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche09 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 89, SWB, 4.0L, AW4, 2WD, D35 = 53 1/8" is that an actual mesure of a stock shaft? i ask because... This is Great! :banana: In case anyone needs it: 1988 4.0L, BA10/5, DANA 35, SWB, 2WD = 53.125" eye center to center Part # 8953004667 (Still had sticker on it!) posted in green and has a manual, (your shaft should be an inch longer) or is his shaft the wrong one? (not original? wich would explain the intact sticker) also...2.5 came with an ax15 behind it? news to me I measured it last night. It is the stock shaft out of my truck. There may be a 1/8" here or there but that is what it measured to be. Same here, my truck was bone stock when I got it, I'm the second owner. The exterior was pretty bad with surface rust (terrible factory paint) but the under side of my truck, not a speck of rust. Its really beautiful... :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Add to the confusion some more. Getting a little annoyed at being doubted by my claim of a AX15 in my '89 with 2.5 I went out and checked. First moved the truck to get it out of the snow. Second raised it up high enough to get under it. Checked the manual to determine a sure fire way to ID a AX5-15. Crawled under truck.cold water immediately began dripping down my neck. Measured gearbox. 16 1/2 inches. End of fact finding tour.Scrapeing grease off surrounding area revealed a 3/4 inch (approximate) aluminum plate between tran and bell housing. Does not look original. To cold to do any more came into house and warmed up. As soon as I get the CJ3 I'm working on out of the garage the MJ is going in for further analysis to confirm a growing suspicion. Jim By the way, have 5 MJ driveshafts. They ALL have the sticker on them. Rear ones, Don't know about the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akamcbird Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 ax15-ba10/5 (same length) are 1" shorter than aw4.... I'm thinking this is true of the 4x4 trannys and the tailpiece of the 2wd ba10/5 is 1" longer than the one on the aw4 which would make the drive shafts equal in length. to figure this out we will need measures of the 2wd trannys tail peices, aw4, ba10/5, and ax15. and would probly be wise to get all tranny measures, 2wd and 4wd, 2.5 and 4.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 2WD LWB w. AW4, 4.0, & D35 = 60" length u-joint to u-joint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comanche09 Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 From u-joint center to u-joint center it is 58.5 inches. This is from an '89 2wd, 2.5L, AX4, D35, SWB I finally remembered to go measure my 4.0L/AX-15/4wd/dana35 and I got 43.5" SWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akamcbird Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 2WD LWB w. AW4 = 60" length u-joint to u-joint. d35 or d44? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 2WD LWB w. AW4 = 60" length u-joint to u-joint. 4.0 or 2.5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akamcbird Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 or 2.8? updated chart....the transfer will skew comanche rear drive shaft lengths-eye to eye lwb, 2.8, tf 3speed, np207, d35= 54" lwb, 4.0, aw4, np231, d44= 48" d35= 49" lwb, 4.0, aw4, 2wd d44= d35= 60.5" lwb, 4.0, ax15-ba10/5, np231, d44= 49" d35= 50" lwb, 4.0, ax15-ba10/5, 2wd d44= d35= swb, 4.0, aw4, np231, d44= 41.25" d35= 42.35" *swb, 4.0, aw4, 2wd d44= 52.125" d35= 53.125" swb, 4.o, ax15-ba10/5, np231, d44= 42.25" d35= 43.25" *swb, 4.0, ax15-ba10/5, 2wd d44= 52.125" d35= 53.125" lwb, 2.5, ax5 d44= 63.75" d35= 64.75" @swb, 2.5 ax15 d44= 57.75" d35= 58.75" swb, 2.5 ax4 d44= 57.5" d35= 58.5" ax15-ba10/5 (same length) are 1" shorter than aw4 d44, chr8.25 have a 1" longer snout than d35 @ ax25 behind a 2.5 from factory, disputed *posibly an exception to the rule, manual and auto trannys being same length due to 2wd tailpeice (waiting for confirmation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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