500 MJ Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Hey Guys, My stock manifold is cracked and I don't want to put a stock one back on if it is just going to crack again. What are my options for an aftermarket header? It looks like Borla doesn't make them anymore... :nuts: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmderyke Posted October 17, 2009 Share Posted October 17, 2009 Ive been looking also, Clifford, pacesetter is ok ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500 MJ Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I put a Clifford on a Ford 4.9L 300ci many years ago and it was a good, well build unit. I would buy it again. http://www.cliffordperformance.net/Merc ... _Code=J258 CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500 MJ Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 I'm sure it is a good header. The issue I have with it though is that I'd like to retain my single exhaust system. I don't have much in the shape of fab tools here too (mainly missing a welder) so a complete bolt on setup is preferred. I'm also looking for something stainless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I have the pacesetter, and I love it. Mine is not stainless however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500 MJ Posted October 18, 2009 Author Share Posted October 18, 2009 I have the pacesetter, and I love it. Mine is not stainless however. I've been thinking that I'll end up going that route. P/N 701191. Did it come as a complete kit or did you have to go get the gaskets, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 It came with gaskets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I'm sure it is a good header. The issue I have with it though is that I'd like to retain my single exhaust system. I don't have much in the shape of fab tools here too (mainly missing a welder) so a complete bolt on setup is preferred. I'm also looking for something stainless. Well I see its not stainless, but they offer a single exhaust adaptor. Fittment: All 1987-2005 Jeeps 242 cid (4.0L). Includes smog fittings. Description: This is a shorty street rod header which includes the header gasket and street hookup kit. Average gains on a stock engine are 18-22% when bolting on this header. By seperating the heat created by the engine in to two collectors, we can increase the life of the engine and make more power with exhaust scavenging. Want to use a single exhaust? Use our universal -Y- Pipe (09-0240) to single out the exhaust to bolt to your stock exhaust system. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reson46 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 If you wanted to remove the EGR you could use a HO header. APN has one for $130. Willy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kro10000 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 My experience with HO headers is that they ALWAYS crack, gone through 2 in bros TJ, rewelded 3 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500 MJ Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 I'm going to bump this one back up to the top. I never got one last fall and am starting to look for one again. If anyone else has any other ideas, please share! I'm probably going to go searching for the cheapest place to get the Pacesetter one and get it later this week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizarod115 Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 check your motor mounts before you replace your header, thats a likely culprit to have cause the split. basically it deosnt matter what you put on there it's going to crack eventually. pacesetter might last a little longer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500 MJ Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 Yah, Thanks, I'm looking into replacing those with the M.O.R.E. Offroad ones while I am in there...I know the stock ones have gone bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I highly advise the more expensive M.O.R.E. motor mounts. they're AWESOME, and it's very convenient to go order a $3 LCA bushing to replace the bad bushing with if it goes bad (big if...360 degrees of rubber around the center sleeve means less torsion and longer lasting). I have a set on mine, and got a set for my friend's comanche that I'm building. as far as headers go, Wade bought a stainless "factory" style exhaust manifold for his '89 off of ebay. less than $150, direct bolt-in, and it has some nice "flex" sections that keep it from vibrating and cracking in the typical spot.... here's a new OEM style... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EXHAUST- ... ccessories here's a pace setter that would work for you http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Pacesett ... ccessories I can't find the one wade has, but I'm sure you could talk to him and figure stuff out. IDK tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89eliminator Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 yeah like Pat said i got mine of e-ghey. i couldnt find the listing though. its either not made anymore, or they just haven't had a new listing yet. i think it was around the $150 shipped area. very nice quality. my old mani was cracked in 6 different places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowey Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 Pacesetter???? They used to be the lowest form of junk crap headers on the market... Have they started producing better parts??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORDENCOMANCHE Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 does it really make a difference in sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithe1811 Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 I put a Clifford on a Ford 4.9L 300ci many years ago and it was a good, well build unit. I would buy it again. http://www.cliffordperformance.net/Merc ... _Code=J258 CW anyone have this in their MJ with the dual setup? just curious what the level of difficulty is to install that setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted January 23, 2010 Share Posted January 23, 2010 does it really make a difference in sound? it's not sound but quality and better exhaust output that we go for with headers. it allows more outgoing flow, which helps economy. it also eliminates the cracking issues that the factory ones have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500 MJ Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 Pacesetter???? They used to be the lowest form of junk crap headers on the market... Have they started producing better parts??? See thats just what I made this thread for...I'm looking for other options that are bolt in but having little to no success so far. I've got another stock manifold to put on the truck if it all comes down to it. That one is already bought and paid for... Maybe I should just invest in the new M.O.R.E. motor mounts and throw the stocker back on for now, then wait until I have access to a welder and get one of the other headers... :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Pacesetter???? They used to be the lowest form of junk crap headers on the market... Have they started producing better parts??? I've had my Pacesetter header for over 3 years now, and have had no issues with it. It was completly bolt-in, with an easy trouble free install. I was very happy with the quality of the header when I opened the box, and am still happy with it over 3 years later. If (read: when) I get another XJ/MJ I would buy another one, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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