Warren99

The replacement heim should be here tomorrow. Once I put that in and move the drag link to under the pittman arm I'm expecting the wobble to be gone. But after that I wanna look into getting the proper control arm lengths. I see the chart but the only problem is I have no idea what the actual lift is I have on my truck. What is the best way I can get an actual measurement of it?

Ah ok, it looked factory to me, glad I asked lol

This is an 86 so its obviously a long bed. I'm assuming that the factory roll bars are the same between long beds and short beds correct? And that is a factory one right?

No I couldn't find the chart, but yes if you look closely the tires are ever so slightly pushed backwards in the wheel well, but before I upgraded the steering and track bar, all 4 tires had even wear, and I can flex pretty much as much as possible and theres no scrubbing. So once I get the caster and wobble sorted, fixing the length isn't super high on my priorities list. But please help me find the chart for future reference.

Alr thx. We found one heim joint with visible play, the rest were fine. After I replace that one I’ll test it. Then I’ll move the drag link under the pitman arm, test drive, and finally use shims to fix my caster.

Are the shims special things you need to buy to rly work properly or can I just use a washer or make some of my own?

The drag link can be moved to under the pitman arm, the manufacturer (trail forged) just said most applications r better for the top but that it needed it can be moved to the bottom. My dad could have sworn he saw some play in the heim joints even tho they are brand new, so tmr we will check again and if there is they will ship us new ones. I’m assuming that should fix the wobble. But even after that I’m gonna look into shims for the lower control arms to get the extra caster I need. Like I said I’m pretty sure when it was alligned the guy said it was like 2 degrees, which if it needs to be around 7.5 then I wanna fix that. Is putting shims on the lower control arm frame brackets straight forward or is it different/impossible since they are different from Cherokees?

Ok thanks I’ll have a look

I have no idea, I got the "lift" from a beater cherokee that was being parted out. The only new components, not including the axles were springs, lower control arms, and their sketchy welded sway bar links.

I'm trying to stay as cheap as possible, could I just get control arms without the need for the drop brackets?

The truck isnt sitting on super level ground but here's the control arms from the side. Notice how much the springs are curved from the bumpstop, another reason I think the control arms could be better. All of the next pictures are just showing the new tie rod, drag link, and panard bar.

The actual lift amount I'm not sure. The only lift we did in the back was relocate the perches so we could put the axle under the leafs, and it perfectly matches the front. And from bolt to bolt, the lower control arms are about 16 inches.

Yea I meant caster idk why I kept saying camber lol. The stabilizer felt great still and is securely connected. Everything is brand new except the steering box itself but it doesn't have any play, has a slight leak though. I only have 31s on mine, which paired with 3.55s lines up the speedometer perfectly.

So after putting on a beefier steering setup my subtle but often wobble turned into a undrivable wobble that could start anywhere above 30mph. Toeing it in made it worse and when I toed the wheels out that sorta fixed it for some reason but it obviously can't stay like that. Regardless, after looking I'm pretty sure the whole issue is coming from not having enough camber. I think when I got my truck alligned it had 2 degrees, when shouldn't it be 4-6? The lift I got from someones cherokee only included taller springs and new lower control arms. Because of this the lower control arms always look like they are at their limit, and shouldn't be angled down as much. I would think getting a control arm drop bracket should not only help add camber, but also make the ride closer to being as smooth as its supposed to be. I guess the main reason I'm making this post is to see if anyone has a different take, or if anyone knows of a cheaper drop bracket. https://www.roughcountry.com/jeep-xj-control-arm-drop-kit-1627.html (and it should be the exact same for an MJ even though it says XJ right? Only reason I'm skeptical is because when you select MJ it says it doesn't fit)

Ok thanks

87 is the only year is was possible to get a black interior correct? And is it only black leather seats or were there also cloth or vinyl black seats?

Oh ok, maybe I can do it properly, I'm afraid of messing something up though.

I'm not too worried about it tho, Ill just fix the leak, nobody can tell its wrong unless they are comanche experts

Alright well I guess I'll be looking for a window next time I see an MJ, who knows how long that will be

Damn ok, I thought there were also 4 piece windows though?

I've never really seemed to notice another MJ that has the rear window stick out an inch or so like mine. I've been wondering if there are just different types or if mine has been taken off and modified. The sealant on top has mostly worn away and has left a small water leak above the window, so I think it may have been taken out at some point. Also, there is all kinds of white overspray on seals and such over the truck, so I'm sure it either got a trailer park rattle can special or was taken to Maaco at some point in its life, maybe they took the window out then.

The intermittent wipers would be nice, and so would having a tilt column. I'll just wait til I find a completely or mostly complete column, I'm not in a hurry

Yeah so the idiot who tried getting the column taken apart with force before giving up at the junkyard damaged too many parts. There were too many internal parts broken and I don't have any on hand already so I returned the column for in store credit at the junkyard. I kept the rest of the cruise control parts though. I just need to find a cruise control column for the 3 spoke wheel. Any year from a gm column in a cherokee should work right?

ok sweet thank you

Oh cool, it just occurred to me tho that mine is a manual and the cherokee was an automatic. So should everything still work? Reminder that it was the same exact year as mine.