87manche Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 you'll still have to move the perches. The distance between them isn't right, the springs won't sit on them proper. Making sure that you know you'll have to weld perches no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 13, 2006 Author Share Posted April 13, 2006 hmm...well that puts a huge back step on my plans.... i think i may just wait for an 8.8 then...i don't want to waste time converting my xj35 to fit my comanche....so ill wait and get an 8.8 and be better off...prolly lincoln lock front and rear :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjcrawlr Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 You guys do know that a Toyota Tacoma, 2wd, has a 5 on 4.5" bolt pattern right? And you also know that the Taco 8.25" rear axle is 60.5 inches wide, right? Does anybody see where I'm going with this? :idea: The only downfall of the Taco axle is that the internals, while similar, are not interchangable with the regular Toy 8" axle. There for gear, locker and axle shaft selection is limited right now, but its popularity is growing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 13, 2006 Author Share Posted April 13, 2006 ive always wondered but never tried it...but i was wondering if i could run an 8 3/4 rear axle out of a cuda i have an extra with a set of 4.10s and its locked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 ive always wondered but never tried it...buti was wondering if i could run an 8 3/4 rear axle out of a cuda i have an extra with a set of 4.10s and its locked... I think its fair to say that you "COULD" run ANY axle out there. I am not fermilular with the stregnth of the housing itself. the rest is likely just fine, but if it isnt housed in a stout case, you got yourself another D35!! My 2cents... CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Here's a cool option if you need to put new spring perches on. Don't know how far off the XJ ones are, but if it's enough, you put a second perch on and use regular bolts instead of u-bolts so you don't have anything hanging under the axle. I saw it on NAXJA, don't know if it's popular. I guess it's called a u-bolt eliminator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I know I read something sorta negative about using the dodge axles a while back on another 4x4 site, but for the life of me I can't remember what the reasons were. :( There's gotta be a reason they aren't very popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I know I read something sorta negative about using the dodge axles a while back on another 4x4 site, but for the life of me I can't remember what the reasons were. :( There's gotta be a reason they aren't very popular.Jeep on! --Pete Cause they're made by Chrysler. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 My guess would be too thin of tubes. They aren't truck axles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 14, 2006 Author Share Posted April 14, 2006 Here's a cool option if you need to put new spring perches on. Don't know how far off the XJ ones are, but if it's enough, you put a second perch on and use regular bolts instead of u-bolts so you don't have anything hanging under the axle. I saw it on NAXJA, don't know if it's popular. I guess it's called a u-bolt eliminator. what axle is that? the perches are tall!....how did you keep the springs from moving around on the perches.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87manche Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 those look like the tnt u-bolt eliminators. They still use the leaf spring centering screw, just like the regular perches. http://tntcustoms.com/webV3/ubolteliminators.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feerocknok Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 It was on NAXJA. The guy has the taller spring perches so it gave him a 1.5" lift, like using blocks. Don't know the axle. Guessing the springs don't move due to 100+ ft/lb of torque. It's a real simple design though, if you're planning on putting new spring perches on anyway. I'll probably be trying it on my Toy this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 They look like TnT U-bolt eliminators. The only problem I se with just welding on another set of perches is the centering bolt. THis is partially used to help hold the axle in place and to prevent the axle from walking on the springs. Also with the bolts so far off the spring pack there is a good chance the leaves will fan out when flexed. Not to be of a deal, unless there is enough force exerted on the bolts for them to shear. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 well iam just going to cut the perches on my xj35 and put it on my comanche for now...till i get an 8.8... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 NEW spring perches are less then 20 bucks at your local Advance Auto parts store. Just have them look in their Mr. gasket catalog. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Or a couple peice of box tubing (say 2x2x.250) and an angle grinder will make them for well, very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 You could go SOA with the ones that are already there, with predictably bad results.. Except for the fact that the perches aren't the same distance apart. You canNOT just drop an XJ axle under an MJ and bolt up an instant SOA Best deal around on new perches is the universal ones from the Mopar Performance catalog. They run about $10/pair (yes, that's for the pair, they come two in the box), and they are BEEFY. Much heavier than stock XJ or MJ perches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyComanche Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Apparently they're 'close enough' that with a fair amount of swearing, it will bolt up. Not ideal for your springs or anything else. But I've never bothered to measure to confirm this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 so i can just bolt up my xj35? it just won't be perfect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 so i can just bolt up my xj35? it just won't be perfect? NO. This will cause unpredictable results twist your leaf springs, and generally do bad things for your jeep. Bushings are not meant to be kept in a constant state of bind that this will cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 haha ok just makin sure bc i really really don't wanna cut and weld but i will have to now..thanks for the help though and i hope to have wheeling pics of my comanche soon until now here's a backyard pic of it half lifted lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 I think you are trying to copy me :wink: Flat black, doorless :shock: whatcha going to do next.. cut the frame behind the cab :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88swampedmj Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 haha na but see the tape under the tailgate iam cutting that off hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooter Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 ive always wondered but never tried it...buti was wondering if i could run an 8 3/4 rear axle out of a cuda i have an extra with a set of 4.10s and its locked... Sure could- I'm running an 8 3/4 from a B-body in my TJ, never any shaft issues for 2 1/2+ years now, and it's spooled with 36" swampers. (B-body is a little narrower, E-body is a little wider) 8 3/4 Swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DansGreyMj Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 i forgot what mag i read it in but t said that the toy rear was almost as strong as a 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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