A poopload of pictures of how I just got it...

[feerocknok]

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[GirsMJ86]

well it appears that you have the stock d30 front and d35 rear axles so that means your gearing is also stock. i think thats 3.73 but not sure one of the other guys will tell you for sure on gearing. not bad looking for 100 bucks if i do say so myself. see ya round on the forums.

 

alex

[feerocknok]

3.73, wow. I'm hoping the transmission (727) has the gearing to keep it in good gas mileage territory. Thank you.

[GirsMJ86]

yea they came from the factory with some pretty low gearing either the 3.73 or something else if I'm wrong but i know its not higher then 3.73. i have also heard of it being 3.07 but I'm not sure if that could be right. as for your tranny it should be ok as long as you got the stock or better tranny.

 

alex

[feerocknok]

Stock tranny. I need to have it going real quick here, so I don't wanna mess around with anything fancy. 3.07 sounds bad! My other two trucks, Toy and GMC, are 4.10s stock... very nice.

[GirsMJ86]

yea thats what most of us switch to but not in the stock d35 rear axle. if you want to lift this thing you will want to swap to an mj or xj d44 or an 8.8 rear axle. there are others that fit too but those are the easiest in that order too. the d35 is very weak and breaks easy if you are slipping and then get traction all of a sudden. the front d30 is fine but you can improve it too with swaps but not too many of us here have swapped the d30 i think. not too much talk on here bout swappin it out at least.

 

alex

[feerocknok]

I want to do a 2" or so lift. I'll probably make some coil spacers for the front, unless those I-6 coils'll do it, and shackle the rear, to fit some 31s. I've got my Toyota to beat, so this'll just see the power line roads and such.

[GirsMJ86]

well good luck and any thing comanche wise we can always help ya out here if you can't find it else where. also check out the pub for weird and goofy stuff once in a while. and you should post the rebuild and mods you do to this thing in the projects section for everyone to see.

 

alex

[87manche]

You have a 2.5

a 2.5 from the factory with a 5spd came with 4.10's, I'm not sure about what came with an auto.

 

Stock d30 and d35 axles are good to 31's. The 30 is worth beefing to take larger tires, if you want bigger than 31's ditch the 35, it's got weak tubes and small axle shafts, and if you fix those problems the ring and pinion is weak too.

 

It's likely that the I6 springs will give you a bit of lift, but only because the spring rate is stiffer to support the extra weight. Instlling them will make the front end ride like @$$. If you like having your filling shaken out go ahead, other wise, I'd just get some spacers to get your 2" lift.

 

Alo bear in mind that MJ shackles are longer than XJ shackles from the factory, so if you're ordering lift shackles for an XJ keep in mind that it won't lift you as high.

 

Going over your pictures again it looks like there may be a small add a leaf in your rear pack. Can we get any close ups of the pack?

[feerocknok]

Should the 35 take a locker alright on 31s?

I'll be making the shackles and spacers myself, I can post the makings on the build-up thing-a-ma-bob.

I can take pics of the leaf packs tomorrow after school for you, if that'll be alright. It's next door in the other garage... too far away for right now.

I heard it's possible to go pretty big without d-shaft vibes on a Comanche, but my Cherokee friend said he won't go over 3". ?

[ROADLESS]

Even though it needs a lot of work, definately worth $100. As far as having a lot of pics, the more the better (IMO). As far as the good, bad, and ugly goes-well i've seen worse. The good: its a 4WD (many aren't, many convert); it has A/C (may not be working, but all the ductwork is there; has CC (if broken, fixable); has full instrument cluster (many don't and wish they have); aluminum rims (lightweight, look good); factory bed liner (expensive); rock rails (must have for wheeling); no rust (at least i couldn't see any from the bottom);

 

I would think that a thurough pressure washing (to see what your working on and to see oil leaks) along with suggestions from other forum members, and what you'll end up with is a decent MJ saved from going to the boneyard and ultimately crushed. Good luck!

[feerocknok]

Thank you for the compliments! I haven't seen rust yet, which excites me.

 

The problems it seems to have are:

Bad valve cover gasket (easy)

Bad tranny (got a new one/moderate)

Broken windshield (calling windshield guy/easy)

Bald Tires (lifting/easy)

Shot shocks (lifting/easy)

Troublesome tailgate (don't mind)

No Front Bumper (custom!/moderate)

Vacuum lines disconnected like mad (moderate)

 

And that's about it! Nothing looks difficult on it, just some time consuming stuff.

 

Does anyone know what could be leaking from that back left brake? Perhaps it's from the axle shaft even? Haven't looked into it yet.

[Skidd3R]

could be your brake cylinders on the drums. They often leak with age. It is an easy fix costs like maybe $20.

[mjeff87]

great score for $100 IMHO. You'll have fun with it I'm sure. The 2.5 TBI isn't as terrible as many make it out to be, just keep the rev's up :D Those axles more than likely are 3.73 with the auto, but verify either by the diff tag or #'s stamped on the ring gear to be certain....anything is possible.

 

Those cinder blocks are scary to me though....please don't work under it like it is. Get some good jackstands, or at least crib it with some heavy lumber....anything but cinderblocks.

 

Jeff

[pingpong]

Those cinder blocks are scary to me though....please don't work under it like it is. Get some good jackstands, or at least crib it with some heavy lumber....anything but cinderblocks.

 

 

I was going to say the same thing. That even scares me :shock:

 

 

As for your rig.

 

Are you sure it is the 727 and not some other tranny?

 

 

Anyways if it was mine I would be making a truggy out of it :twisted:

 

 

I would definately look at upgrading the D35. for the price of the parts you are going to need to fix your brakes, you can buy an 8.8 out of a pick-a-part place and solve your rear axle issue.

 

 

As for swapping front axles. I know Pete has done it, and I am in the process of collecting parts to swap my front axle. I am swapping in a dodge d60, so this might be a lil more then you need.

 

I say get it runniong and then wheel the pi$$ out of it

[whowey]

I'll bet the tranny is a 904, not a 727.

 

But the FSM doesn't show 3.73 as an available ratio for Auto trannys in 86.

 

3.31, 3.54, and 4.11 are what the FSM shows.

 

3.31 was in the 'fuel economy package'.

 

 

I agree it is probably brake fluid leaking out,

[feerocknok]

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[pingpong]

Truggy.. lets see how do you explaing my rig :? Just check out the link in my signature, and that is what some ppl consider a truggy.

 

 

 

The peugoet is a manual transmision, not an auto matic

 

The 727 came behinnd the 258 and the v-8 motors that amc offered. I agree that more then likely it is the 904

 

As for the cinder blocks. Anuthing I can break with a hammer, is not something I would be crawling under with a 3000+ pound jeep on. Jack stands are cheap, do you life a favor and stop risking it.

[feerocknok]

*spites himself* I've been referring to the 904 as a 727, and the peugout as a 904 all this time. I'm still learning Jeep. I don't know em worth a darn yet.

 

Is the 904 good? (I hope so)

 

I'll swap to jackstands.

 

Ah! I can't hack this thing! I gotta make it my girlie getter/light off-roader. My Toyota's for the beating. Cut fenders and narrowed bumper with a coil conversion and cage in the works. I'll probably bob the Jeep though.

However... You have a freaking gnarly Jeep.

[whowey]

Yep, thats a 904.

 

The tail is a dead giveaway. That adaptor piece between the tranny body and the T-case, is what gives it away.

 

The 727 looks similar, but was used in the full size Jeeps.

 

The Puke-out is a 5-spd that was used with the 6-cyl from 87 until late 89. The 4-cyl MJ, mercifully never recieved the craptastic Puke-out.

[CWLONGSHOT]

Your rear springs look normal to me, that bottom leaf is a factory overload leaf.

 

Here is a shot of mine, just after a AAL install.

 

 

The AAL is the clean/shiny black leaf, just above the factory overload leaf.

 

CW

[bhawkin2]

I also have a 86. Mine is 2.5 AMC,904/207AMC,dana30 front,Dana 35 rear they are 3.54 gears. Your truck is pretty much Identical to mine except mine is Blue an no fancy stuff.

[feerocknok]

I also have a 86. Mine is 2.5 AMC,904/207AMC,dana30 front,Dana 35 rear they are 3.54 gears. Your truck is pretty much Identical to mine except mine is Blue an no fancy stuff.

Sweet! So maybe I'll bum some 2.5 questions off you sometime!

 

As for the AAL, wasn't sure. It only lasted 20 minutes before it was in was in the air with the tires off. Thank you for the info on that.

If I remove that, will I lose much ride heighth? I think I'd like the flex without it, but don't want to compensate with even taller shackles.

 

Spun the back tires today. 41 driveshaft rotations in 20 wheel rotations, so if I'm doing my math right, [41/(20/2)], it should have 4.10s on it, or as someone said earlier 4.11s.

[bhawkin2]

Feel free I've been all over this thing! :D

[DirtyComanche]

You have 4.10s alright. Most 2.5s got them...

 

Anywho, can I ask what those coils are out of? Variable rate coils are NOT a Jeep thing. If you ask me they look suspiciously like the coils ouit of a Ford thunderbird, mustang, or such... Look at the top coil and see if it is the exact same diameter as the Jeep ones.

 

Anyways, if they are what I think they are they'll give you 3" or so of lift. Depending on exactly what car they came out of, and what options (engine) it had. But only one way to know. (They'll ride kinda odd too, but apparently not bad, the whole variable rate thing)

 

 

Now that I look at them again I swear that they're Ford car coils. They don't look as long as the V8 (really stiff) versions, so you might be lucky... You'll have to modify the top bucket/bumpstop area when you use them, or they'll make a clunking noise as they move around.

 

 

As I said, throw 'em in and see. Coil swap only takes a few minutes.