81Chero Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 I'm in the process of buying it. Owner said that the day he got it, he drove for aprx 60 miles and it used almost a whole tank of gas! So he parked it, and hasn't done anything more with it. It's got the 2.8 and I've read that the 3.4 is a lot better engine, and swaps right in. But what else is "special" about it? Anyone know what the gears usually were in the 86's? It's not in the best shape. And figured it will need a new fuel tank. At the time I couldn't see the rear axle, so could it have a Dana 44 in back? Can anything be deciphered from the VIN? I know it's on my phone but can't find it 😡 Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 gear ratios paired to drivetrains wasn't yet standardized in 86 so it could have pretty much anything (3.31, 3.55, 3.73, 4.10). easiest way to check is to jack up one rear tire and rotate it around exactly twice while counting the number of times the driveshaft rotates. for example: 3 and a half times is 3.55 gears the 3.4 is a better built engine (it's essentially just a newer version of the 2.8), but if there's nothing horribly wrong inside your 2.8, I personally probably wouldn't put forth the effort to do the swap unless I was also swapping in the EFI. to go through that much gas I'd guess that the tank leaks. could just be the pump seal, but could also be rust. hard to say without looking. the 44 rear axle technically wasn't available in 86, but anything could happen in 3 decades so it's best to look and see. drop your vin into the registry section: https://comancheclub.com/forum/29-1986/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81Chero Posted November 4, 2022 Author Share Posted November 4, 2022 Thank you. Haven't purchased the truck yet, because it's almost an hour away. I did source a D44 from an 88 comanche a few years ago. and have a selection of carriers/gear sets spanning a few decades, so as long as they didn't change the internal workings I should be good. Also have a pair of 44's from an older Cherokee. But they're 2.93:1(?) I also have a 2.5 that I had some machining done to, and might even use that. It's been sitting several years, so who knows what I'll find lol.. Again, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomeizter Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Give that 2.8L some love and it will take you places... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The86manche Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, zomeizter said: Give that 2.8L some love and it will take you places... The 2.8 will probably run just fine. Run her until she dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81Chero Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 It's pretty rough, but I've seen worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Oh wow. Doesn’t have the heavy duty cooling fan. I thought all the 2.8Ls had those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howeitsdone Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 My brother has the 2.8 in his S10. Absolutely loves the thing and maintains it. It’ll go for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The86manche Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 12 hours ago, eaglescout526 said: Oh wow. Doesn’t have the heavy duty cooling fan. I thought all the 2.8Ls had those. HD cooling fan? I don't even think mine has one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The86manche Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 12 hours ago, 81Chero said: It's pretty rough, but I've seen worse! I've seen way worse. I like that color too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, The86manche said: HD cooling fan? I don't even think mine has one Yup. I’ve got one. It’s a 7 or 8 blade I pulled from an XJ years ago to use in my MJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Fuel consumption like that and I’ll agree with Pete, it’s dumping it on the ground somewhere. If it was all going through the engine, you would know from the puddle of liquid gas running out the tailpipe… that or the flamethrower. Or the fuel gauge doesn’t work so good and it either didn’t start out with a full tank, or it didn’t empty it all the way, and buddy didn’t realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomeizter Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 6 hours ago, eaglescout526 said: Yup. I’ve got one. It’s a 7 or 8 blade I pulled from an XJ years ago to use in my MJ. Mine has HD e-cooling fan alright...out of an Aerostar haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, zomeizter said: Mine has HD e-cooling fan alright...out of an Aerostar haha! An Aerostar one fits on the 2.5L radiator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The86manche Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 10 hours ago, eaglescout526 said: Yup. I’ve got one. It’s a 7 or 8 blade I pulled from an XJ years ago to use in my MJ. Interesting. I've never seen that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYau Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I used to have an 86 with the 2.8L, and mine was terrible on gas, for me I would get about 150-175 miles per tank, not 60! I did some basic carb work and it didn't get much better. I never saw any signs of gas getting dumped anywhere. I attributed to the bad gas mileage to a combination of the carb and poor shift points set on the 3 speed auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomeizter Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 On 11/7/2022 at 7:47 PM, eaglescout526 said: An Aerostar one fits on the 2.5L radiator? barely, I reckon 2.8L and 2.5L share same radiator spec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 9 hours ago, zomeizter said: barely, I reckon 2.8L and 2.5L share same radiator spec? Yeah they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zomeizter Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 13 hours ago, eaglescout526 said: Yeah they do. I learned something today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, zomeizter said: I learned something today... Yeah one of the few things the two engines share with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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