EUREKA Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I am doing an instrument cluster swap and noticed that it appears there was never a bulb installed in the "EMISS MAINT" light position in my old cluster. On the new cluster this position is "CHECK ENGINE". What the deal with that? And what does the "LOCK" light indicate? Something to do with door locks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 what year is the new cluster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUREKA Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 I'll have to ask 88mjsally, I just bought it from him. It is blue faced renix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugboat95 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I just want thru this. Somebody probably pulled the bulb. Its on a timer. There is no sensor hooked up to anything. When it hits the "magical" time, its a reminder to service your system. Mainly the O2 sensors. Here's the catch, you can't reset it. So take the bulb out. The "reset" was too replace the gear driven timer. Yeah, they don't make those anymore. You can open it and reset the gears, but 30 years plastic won't survive taking it apart.Its a reminder....nothing more. Has no effect what so ever on engine performance. Take the bulb out.1989 Eliminator4.0L 5 speed2wd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 49 minutes ago, EUREKA said: 2.8L 84-86 Instrument cluster info center filter. I think lock delt with 4wd like that was the Lo indicator and 4wd light was just 4wd part time is engaged 50 minutes ago, EUREKA said: 86-90 Renix Era filter for the info center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugboat95 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I think the antilock is your clue. That is for antilock brakes. I don't think 88s had antilock brakes. I know my 89 doesn't. I don't think that panel is original.1989 Eliminator4.0L 5 speed2wd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ωhm Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Isn't CHECK ENGINE used for OBDI codes (blinkes)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUREKA Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, tugboat95 said: I just want thru this. Somebody probably pulled the bulb. Its on a timer. There is no sensor hooked up to anything. When it hits the "magical" time, its a reminder to service your system. Mainly the O2 sensors. Here's the catch, you can't reset it. So take the bulb out. The "reset" was too replace the gear driven timer. Yeah, they don't make those anymore. You can open it and reset the gears, but 30 years plastic won't survive taking it apart. Its a reminder....nothing more. Has no effect what so ever on engine performance. Take the bulb out. 1989 Eliminator 4.0L 5 speed 2wd Thank you, I remember learning about this years ago now. I would have never remembered that. Weird thing is it looks as if there was never a bulb there at all. No signs of wear the contact would have been between the copper traces and bulb holder at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUREKA Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, eaglescout526 said: 2.8L 84-86 Instrument cluster info center filter. I think lock delt with 4wd like that was the Lo indicator and 4wd light was just 4wd part time is engaged 86-90 Renix Era filter for the info center. Thank you. Bummer that my filter is in such poor condition. Is it possible to polish the the deteriorating clear coat off of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUREKA Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, tugboat95 said: I think the antilock is your clue. That is for antilock brakes. I don't think 88s had antilock brakes. I know my 89 doesn't. I don't think that panel is original. 1989 Eliminator 4.0L 5 speed 2wd I hear you but both the factory filter from my 88 and the replacement have references to anti-lock. I am 100% sure the one in my 88 idiot light cluster is original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ωhm said: Isn't CHECK ENGINE used for OBDI codes (blinkes)? 2.8L's and 2.1L TD computer's also had this ability as well. We just don't get alot of 2.8L guys still running original equipment and TDs. 57 minutes ago, EUREKA said: Also what bugs me about this filter is the bezel is for the older 84-86 clusters that used two screws to hold the filter and bezel in place. So if it is an HO filter, it has been swapped around but I have seen some filters with antilock, meaning AMC was having hopes for having a piece of safety equipment in the future and kept the lettering there orrrr there was a very early style we don't know about that was used on say the XJs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Maybe I will pull out my cluster collection and document the different filters that can be had with the clusters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUREKA Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, eaglescout526 said: Maybe I will pull out my cluster collection and document the different filters that can be had with the clusters. That would be great info to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Also I think you can just scrub the failing clear off and still run the filter and be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUREKA Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 Just now, eaglescout526 said: Also I think you can just scrub the failing clear off and still run the filter and be fine. Scrubbing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 from my 86 or 87 diesel cluster: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 The one I found on my 84. I am damn sure this is for the 2.1L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 blows my mind that those are so different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Pete I’m willing to bet our cluster filters are swapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 very well could be. I didn't ask a lot of questions, I just wanted a cluster with the turbo gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugboat95 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 I hear you but both the factory filter from my 88 and the replacement have references to anti-lock. I am 100% sure the one in my 88 idiot light cluster is original.If its not already in the registry here, list it. You'll eventually get a build sheet from one of the guys around here. Maybe antilock brakes were an option back then????1989 Eliminator4.0L 5 speed2wd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglescout526 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 7 hours ago, tugboat95 said: Maybe antilock brakes were an option back then???? Only on XJs they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EUREKA Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 12 hours ago, tugboat95 said: If its not already in the registry here, list it. You'll eventually get a build sheet from one of the guys around here. Maybe antilock brakes were an option back then???? 1989 Eliminator 4.0L 5 speed 2wd I have both my MJ's on the registry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/26/2022 at 10:20 PM, tugboat95 said: I think the antilock is your clue. That is for antilock brakes. I don't think 88s had antilock brakes. I know my 89 doesn't. I don't think that panel is original. 1989 Eliminator 4.0L 5 speed 2wd Antilock brakes were not available in 1988. They were an option in 1989. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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