Chase The Hero Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 would i want to swap an XJ axle onto my stock MJ? Mine is bad so i need a replacement :cry: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEAD_NOT_FOLLOW Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Front or Rear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 It depends on which axle (front or rear), and what aspect of your axle is bad. Keeping in mind that any XJ axle you get is going to be used, it might make better sense to repair what's wrong with yours than to swap in a different with its own potential problems. Plus there's the issue of matching gear ratios. If the XJ axle isn't from within the same year range as your MJ, the knuckles, hubs and rotors will be different and that means you won't be able to use your MJ calipers, you would have to use calipers from the same year as the axle. Why don't you give us a bit more information on what the problem is with your axle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase The Hero Posted November 3, 2007 Author Share Posted November 3, 2007 1) it is the rear axle thats screwed up. 2)the dana 35 is spittin teeth all over the place (found about 6 or 7 in the gear oil at the bottom) 3)we looked around and it was cheaper to buy a used axle from a junkyard than buy new gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camjeep3 Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 well since you will be replacing the axle your best bet would probably be to uprage the axle. The d35 is not known for being a great axle, i would say look for a d44 or a ford 8.8. instead of throwing money at something that will probably break again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnQ Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 I've got a Dana 44 out of an 87 cherokee for sale or trade. Complete with brakes and 3:07 gears. :D Got anything you want to trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejndssn Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 to bad u where not on the east coast i would be willing to make a deal like an internal slave ax-15 :brows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 1) it is the rear axle thats screwed up.2)the dana 35 is spittin teeth all over the place (found about 6 or 7 in the gear oil at the bottom) 3)we looked around and it was cheaper to buy a used axle from a junkyard than buy new gears. What ratio, and how do you use the truck? So many people have upgraded from the D35 that someone here might just give you a set of used gears, if used gears would be all you need. If it's a street truck, though, the D35 is adequate and putting in an XJ axle would be an acceptable solution. However -- for the same amount of work, you could drop in an XJ Chrysler 8-1/4 axle. Any of them are better than the D35, and the 97 and newer have larger 29-spline axle shafts that approach the D44 in strength. If the junkyard will sell you one of those for not too much more than a D35, that's probably the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejndssn Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Eagle wrote Any of them are better than the D35, and the 97 and newer have larger 29-spline axle shafts that approach the D44 in strength. If the junkyard will sell you one of those for not too much more than a D35, that's probably the way to go do you know if these are clipped and how much effort is to keep these in the SUA vice SOA just a personal pref. for me :hmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 To use an XJ axle you have to weld on new perches either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase The Hero Posted November 4, 2007 Author Share Posted November 4, 2007 first, i use the truck as a DD to work and school, as well as the occasional off-roading at the ranch. the gear ratio dosnt come to mind and i gotta go to work soon :roll: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Eagle wroteAny of them are better than the D35, and the 97 and newer have larger 29-spline axle shafts that approach the D44 in strength. If the junkyard will sell you one of those for not too much more than a D35, that's probably the way to go do you know if these are clipped and how much effort is to keep these in the SUA vice SOA just a personal pref. for me :hmm: If by "clipped" you mean are they c-clip, the answer is yes. And the spring perches are located the same as for an XJ D35, which means they are spring over but NOT the same spacing as for an MJ. So to use it in an MJ, regardless of SUA or SOA you either have to relocate the perches or simply weld on new ones (if you're going SUA). Like all XJ axles, they also have the lower shock mounts welded to the tubes. You can leave those in place and simply not use them, or if you're concerned about ground clearance you can cut them off. I would cut them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy_bottle_caps Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 However -- for the same amount of work, you could drop in an XJ Chrysler 8-1/4 axle. Any of them are better than the D35, and the 97 and newer have larger 29-spline axle shafts that approach the D44 in strength. If the junkyard will sell you one of those for not too much more than a D35, that's probably the way to go. I just got back from the Badlands an hour ago, and my D35 rear gave up the ghost as well. I am looking for an upgrade. I don't know what ratio my rear axle is, and i didn't see a tag on it. the 8.8 Ford sounds interesting which is tougher the new Chrysler 8 1/4 or the Ford 8.8? BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I just got back from the Badlands an hour ago, and my D35 rear gave up the ghost as well. I am looking for an upgrade. I don't know what ratio my rear axle is, and i didn't see a tag on it. the 8.8 Ford sounds interesting which is tougher the new Chrysler 8 1/4 or the Ford 8.8? The Exploder 8.8 is marginally tougher than the Mopar 8-1/4, BUT ... Consider that the Ford axle is too narrow and that you'll have to run spacers just to keep even stock tires from rubbing on the sheetmetal. Either that or run ridiculous backspacing that'll leave the front wheels sticking way outside of the flares. Plus the Ford axle has an offset differential -- not a major issue in an MJ, but a consideration. The Mopar axle (97 and newer XJ will have the 29-spline shafts) is the correct width for an MJ. Weld on the perches and you're ready to rock and roll. I know a lot of people seem to think the 8.8 is a wonderful idea, but IMHO it's ridiculous. Unless you need the deeper gearing options available (but not standard) in the 8.8, the Chrysler axle is so much less work that to me it's a no-brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-man930 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 was the 8.25 ever available with 3:07s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 was the 8.25 ever available with 3:07s? Yes in five speed equiped xj's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 was the 8.25 ever available with 3:07s? Yes, of course. It was used in every non-ABS XJ with the 4.0L engine and 5-speed from about 1992 and newer. The 92 thru 96 will be 27-spline with sgafts that are the same size as the D35 but the larger ring gear and tougher housing and tubes. 97 thru 2001 are the more desireable 29-spline version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-man930 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Same width? If so I'm going to broaden my search. I need a quick replacement (230,xxx miles... :eek: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWLONGSHOT Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Same width? If so I'm going to broaden my search. I need a quick replacement (230,xxx miles... :eek: ) If you get the 8.25 out of a XJ, YES its the same width as a MJ. CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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