MJDigger-CT Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Heyo. So I'm not sure if it's normal or not looked at some other mj pics on the forum here. My back wheel seems pretty off center off the wheel well. It's not causing any problems I can see . Just wondering if any one else's truck is like this. It's about a two inch difference measuring of the flare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 totally stock truck? does the right match the left? pics would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDigger-CT Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 So well I have the 3 inch lift springs in the rear from hell creak. Both sides to appear to be the same. here's a picture of the pass side. Just kinda curious , doesn't seem right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadan Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 That's normal. As the leaf spring compresses the wheel moves back in the wheel well. So to prevent it hitting the back of the well, they position it just a bit forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDigger-CT Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 Ooo alright thanks for the response , that didn't even cross my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Are you jacked up in that pic? And is the big bushing end of the spring on the front frame bracket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDigger-CT Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 Yes the lift is installed in the picture. Double checked the bushings on the leaf spring the larger bushings is mounted toward the front on the bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 That's normal. As the leaf spring compresses the wheel moves back in the wheel well. So to prevent it hitting the back of the well, they position it just a bit forward. while it is normal to have some of that, his seems a bit excessive to my eye. :dunno: could easily be fixed by drilling a new center pin hole in the leaf pad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 ^^ Agree. That's not normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunnc1991 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Stock perches? If not, a lot of aftermarket ones have multiple center pin holes in them. Drilling the stock ones would net the same result as Pete said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I would also contact HC to double check specs on that center pin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadan Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Looks like new leaf springs to me, until they settle, I wouldn't bother drilling anything. My rear axle was really far forward for a couple of months when I put on new leaf springs, now it's right about where it should be. leave it alone for now. Throw some weight in the back to try and settle those springs.Then again, I don't resort to modifying something that will need time to correct itself. :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 My new springs sure as hell didn't look like that. The axle was nearly centered and never moved when the springs settled. The below is Hell Creek's spec sheet for the 3+2 springs; also applies to the 3+1 springs. You can see that the center pin is not supposed to be centered (26" and 31"). Throw a tape on it and take some measurements from the eyes to the pin and see how much the offset is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDigger-CT Posted January 30, 2016 Author Share Posted January 30, 2016 Alright alright yes stock perches on a Dana 35 . Took a quick measurement with out dropping the axle of the springs got right in the ball park of 31 in the back and 26 in the front . I do remember I had to drill out the center pin whole in the pearch prior to install because the he pack had a bigger pin. Pretty sure it was 5/8s if I remember right. But that wouldn't change anything with alignment. Maybe I missed something during install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyluvv Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 My HC springs did that too. They will settle and be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadan Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 When I installed my new General Springs leaves my wheels were that far forward. When I get home I will find a picture I took and post it here if you want. They sit almost entirely in the middle now.Just my own experiences and 2 cents. I still say toss some weight in the back, let them settle, and then see where they end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 I do hope the OPs springs will settle out for sure. 'Splain this then: Here's a pic of my truck when I got it from the original owner in 03, had 96K miles on it. The wheels are very far forward, and these were the original springs. The below is just after I installed a pair of General Springs MT leafs about six months later. The wheels are centered, and stayed that way. And I have no idea why. It drove fine before and after. :hmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadan Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 ^That is strange, but I have no explanation for it. My stock springs were centered even with a broken leaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Did you crank down the bolts while the truck was still in the air and the axle was fully drooped? The bushings only have so much play in them, so not waiting until the weight of the truck was sitting on the springs before tightening the bolts could force the springs to stay somewhat drooped until the bushings had sorted themselves out... i.e. settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyluvv Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Bone stock 2WD with 165K on the springs Brand new 4.5" HC springs Six years later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelbyluvv Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 They will settle and be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDigger-CT Posted January 31, 2016 Author Share Posted January 31, 2016 Interesting stuff. Thanks for the replies just gonna let it do its thing for now and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krustyballer16 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 with my rustys 4.5" the wheels are centered... I'm glad too... i think how far forward all these sit look ridiculous. i pull an 18' car hauler loaded down with side by side and quads and never notice the wheels tucking up any different... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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