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2.8 Fuel Pump Options, Round 2


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Yeah the 2.8 originally had a mechanical pump, but i bought it with a blown motor, and just put a new 2.8 in from an s10. New engine was tbi, swapped all the carb stuff over, but it didnt have the hole in the block for the mechanical pump which is why i got the holley. The holley was ungodly loud, louder in the cab than my exhuast (no cat, no muffler, side pipe), and i don't really want to spend $120 on another pump thats going to be that loud and not last a year.

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On a whim, I tried a mega cheap Mr. Gasket electric pump in my Volkswagen and I haven't had any issues with it. Granted, the car only sees a few months of good driving each summer, but it's been a few years that it's been in the car. I wouldn't consider it loud by any means and it sits right on the other side of the footwell... or "firewall" for the front-engine crowd. What I really don't like about it is that it really doesn't look nor feel like a quality piece. Keep in mind the Mr. Gasket logo though.  :shake:

 

2-3.5 PSI: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MRG0/42S/N0515.oap?pt=N0515&ppt=C0128

4-7 PSI: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MRG0/12S/N0515.oap?pt=N0515&ppt=C0128

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On a whim, I tried a mega cheap Mr. Gasket electric pump in my Volkswagen and I haven't had any issues with it. Granted, the car only sees a few months of good driving each summer, but it's been a few years that it's been in the car. I wouldn't consider it loud by any means and it sits right on the other side of the footwell... or "firewall" for the front-engine crowd. What I really don't like about it is that it really doesn't look nor feel like a quality piece. Keep in mind the Mr. Gasket logo though.  :shake:

 

2-3.5 PSI: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MRG0/42S/N0515.oap?pt=N0515&ppt=C0128

4-7 PSI: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MRG0/12S/N0515.oap?pt=N0515&ppt=C0128

Thats the first pump I tried Neohic. The 4-7 psi model couldnt keep up with the engine, went through 4 of them in 3 months. Thats when i bought the holley.

 

 

Is the pump in the tank? If not Why not get a newer mj sender and put a factory pump in it and wire it up and call it a day ? just a thought

No. Carbuerated engine that originally had a mechanical pump on the block. 

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I bypassed mine way back when and just left it be. Put a 4.0 or 2.5 sending unit in the tank, run a relayed fused accessory on in start position wire (take the always on with key in off the ignition switch) and put manual fuel pressure regulator on set at about 5 psi. Problem solved.

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I bypassed mine way back when and just left it be. Put a 4.0 or 2.5 sending unit in the tank, run a relayed fused accessory on in start position wire (take the always on with key in off the ignition switch) and put manual fuel pressure regulator on set at about 5 psi. Problem solved.

That sounds like a great idea. I would still need an mj sending unit though, right?

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No, it would last longer because it's not a prone to failure mechanical pump.

 

 

And I bet you could get an xj sender, pull the wire and wiring fitting out, swap those onto your 86 sender, and put the xj sock and pump onto your 86 sender. May require you to cut some tube off the stock sender.

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You didn't, but he was taking about an inline pump, which are loud.

 

And no, reversing wires isn't possible literally much less a viable option.

 

The potentiometer has different pot readings between the 87-90 and 91-92, and again in 96-01.

 

There are only 3 wires;

Ground

Fuel pump + supply

Sending unit wire. The sender wire sends back resistance inputs to the cluster/computer. Reversing the wires ( which would have to be done inside the tank as there are only 3 externally and 4 internally) will peg it one way or the other, as well as frying the potentiometer

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Your sender would not be helpful...the potentiometer mounting is different so it is not useful. He really just needs an 87-90 pump with sender for this.

Thanks Jeepco, I'm going to look into this more. I'm not sure i can stand the noise of the inline pump any more.

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Where is your pump located ? Remember that these pumps are better pushers than pullers so the closer to the tank the better. My bro in law has a 69 FJ with a 350/350/203 combo with a holly 4v carb and was running a mr gasket pump for a couple months till it gave up the ghost because it was mounted on the firewall 3 feet from the carb with only the carb filter installed and about 18 inches above the tank . It now sits 12" from the tank with filters before and aft hard lined all the way to the carb with a new mr gasket pump running it and has been working perfect for the last 5 years . I'm not yet convinced the pump is your problem .

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I use a trick flow pump mounted low just outside the fuel cell for my 4.0. Cooled by the fuel flowing through it, so it must be used with a return line to ensure constant flow of fuel. Never a problem with it yet other than it's loud and the noise transmits through the unibody. Maybe a setup like that with a universal pressure regulator and return line would last longer than an electric carburetor pump.

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Where is your pump located ? Remember that these pumps are better pushers than pullers so the closer to the tank the better. My bro in law has a 69 FJ with a 350/350/203 combo with a holly 4v carb and was running a mr gasket pump for a couple months till it gave up the ghost because it was mounted on the firewall 3 feet from the carb with only the carb filter installed and about 18 inches above the tank . It now sits 12" from the tank with filters before and aft hard lined all the way to the carb with a new mr gasket pump running it and has been working perfect for the last 5 years . I'm not yet convinced the pump is your problem .

The Holley was mounted under the bed, as close to the tank as I could get it, while being as far from the exhaust as possible. In line filter between tank and pump, and another in the engine bay before the carb so I could easily see if it was flowing or not. I'll probably get another mr gasket to get back on the road and work on a 4.0 pump later.

Jeepco, would I be able to make an xj pump and sender work? Or do I need one from an mj?

 

Edit: Nevermind on that last question, re read the previous responses. Gonna pull my sender and compare to my brothers XJ and see what i can do.

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