88whitemanche Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 What's up guys I have a problem...my fuse panel is off the fire wall for future reference so that if the clutch master cylinder was to ever leak to avoid any electrical problem....but when it rains water enters into that slot where the wires go through and all into my driver side floor I was thinking about putting waterproof silicone there but idk if that's going to last long... Any input would be great! I am planning to put my vinyl rug in the near future but I want to fix that specific problems before any laying down of the rug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Rather extreme reaction/measure, don't you think? Kinda like cutting off your head cuz you have a headache. The clutch will get spongy feeling when the master starts leaking. How about an interior shield instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 What's an interior shield? And how do I install it? Sorry about the dumb questions but I don't want it to happen again...it is a drastic measure due to the leaking water coming in but I don't want to rig anything to stop it to leak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oly Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I'm pretty certain they make a rubber type gromet which may solve that problem. kinda like the gromet u would use for a pcv valve. this way it wouldnt look ghetto. just a thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 Any pictures? Or part numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 You're on your own here. Gotta make someting. I'm envivioning a cup-shaped piece of metal or plastic, held on by the clutch master cylinfer studs, fabricated so that it would collect any fluid that leaks out of the master. That cup-shaped deal could have a nipple on the bottom to attach a hose which could be routed through the firewall via a small hole to the exterior of the cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted May 2, 2013 Author Share Posted May 2, 2013 That's a good idea but its not leaking from the clutch master cylinder I know it's great for future reference. But my main concern is the water from the rain coming in from the area where the wires from the fuse panel goes through....I've look into a thread from this same forum but basically to used window silicone to seal that area up  This is the link http://comancheclub.com/topic/14064-where-does-the-water-come-from-updatenow-windshield/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I'm confused as all hell right now. Put everything back to stock and make a catchment in case of future master cylinder leaks. How's that headache? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted May 3, 2013 Author Share Posted May 3, 2013 Lol yeah sorry to be confusing...catch can. Great idea. Problem- water leaking into fuse panel area from rain...solution? No clue  Saw tech subject in link above similar solution to just seal that area with window silicone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 When my clutch master cylinder was leaking I stuffed the area above the fuse panel with paper towels. Ran it that way for 6 months before I finally got around to changing the cylinder. Changed towels about once a week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyav8r Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I'm confused so let's go back to your first post. You say your fuse panel is off the firewall. Do you mean that you have removed it from the stock location and relocated it somewhere else? I'm assuming you've done something like that because you say "water enters into that slot where the wires go through". Do you just have the wires coming from the engine bay to the cab passing through the hole in the firewall where the fuse panel was previously located? if so, you're pretty well limited to sealing around the wires with silicone or other sealant. You'll probably still get some water seepage coming in between the wires, even with a big blob of silicone. Maybe I'm still not understanding the situation, but if you did move the fuse panel, where is it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 Fuse panel is just hanging. it was hanging when I got the truck and after reading on this site when I got the truck for Christmas 2 years ago I didn't even bother bolting it back up because of a possible clutch mastet cylinder leak. well it doesn't have the two screws to place it back on the fire wall....i tried looking for a way to disconnect that fuse panel but I don't think it's possible. Maybe there's a way I don't know about. Â Your right about the silicone that's why I haven't attempted to apply anything until there's a solution to this...I tried pulling the wires back into the engine bay while my dad pushes the fuse box but not budging. Â Any clues? Ill get pics tomorrow to show you guys what I mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiser54 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 When my clutch master cylinder was leaking I stuffed the area above the fuse panel with paper towels. Ran it that way for 6 months before I finally got around to changing the cylinder. Changed towels about once a week or so. Maxi Pads woulda lasted about 28 days...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyav8r Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I haven't taken my fuse panel apart yet, but I understand that there is a recessed bolt in the center of the engine bay side of the fuse panel. If you take that bolt out you should be able to work the engine bay side of the connector back through the hole (apparently it came through there to get where it is now). If no one on the forum can chip in with the size of the bolts that attach the fuse panel (and cab side connector/wiring harness) to the firewall, eyeball the hole size and try the closest size bolt you have for fit. You should be able to estimate the length by measuring the thicknesses the bolt has to pass through. Don't force the threads or you'll strip them. If you don't have any bolts on hand that are close to the size, go to your local Home Depot or Lowes hardware department and pick up a selection of standard (SAE) and metric bolts (could be either) to trial fit. Remember that there are coarse and fine thread pitches in both standard and metric bolts. If they don't have individual bolts in the sizes you need, buy the small plastic packages. Just poke the threaded end of a bolt through the plastic and try it for fit. If it's not the right size, push it back through the hole and you can return it if you don't get the package dirty or rip the hole too large. When you're ready to re-assemble the fuse panel and connector, use your silicone around the edges to seal it up (don't get any of the silicone in the connectors). Then you can either fab up a catch can as Cruiser described or/and just go ahead and replace the clutch master cylinder. I may go to the garage and pull mine apart to see if this is right. On second thought, I won't. Too many other projects going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biotex Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Seems to me the two bolts are a fine thread something like 1/4" or less maybe a #10 or #12 fine thread.. Have you looked on the inside under the dash to see if perhaps the bolts were threaded back into the holes they belong in? Might get lucky that whoever removed them, put them back for safe storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87mjdriver Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I've pulled the fuse box apart last summer I did a bunch of rewiring. The fuse panel screws on to the firewall over the top of a 2 piece wire bulkhead connector. The cab side wire harness connects to a engine bay wire harness. There is a gasket between the two halves, mine is gone sounds like yours is too. I tried making one it didn't work. I just snapped them together pushed the connector tight too the fire wall from the inside and then siliconed the hell out of the perimeter of the connector on the engine side. Those two halves are held together by a small hex head bolt, I can't remember the size but I wanna say it was 8mm or 1/4 or close to that. The fuse part screws on over the bulkhead connector The 2 bolts are large Phillips head screws course thread mine never came out of the cab side of the harness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 Well guys I checked the fuse panel in the interior side there was one screw with a Phillips head drive and on the engine bay there there is a I think it's 8 mm socket size bolt head I haven't taken it apart since it is my dd and I can't work on anything because I don't have a back up...I will try this weekend to see if I can work my way to taking those pcs apart and hopefully fixing the leaking problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64 Cheyenne Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Spend some time at the JY, take one apart, learn how it comes off and you get the correct fasteners that you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88whitemanche Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 Sounds like a plan....I will be doing that so I don't mess anything up on my truck but one that's already in the junkyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ_Milam Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 make sure you clean all the gunk out of the bulk head. I cleaned mine and packed it with dielectric grease to seal it up. Wouldn't it be easier to just fix the leaking master? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyav8r Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 From his original post, he's left it off in case the clutch master leaks in the future. I'm with you, though. If it looks suspicious, replace it before putting the fuse panel back in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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