kro10000 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I dunno how many of you fellow CCrs shop at OReillys, but if youre used to buying our house microguard filters, STOP... They are no longer Purolators, they are now Fram... Great cost cutting measures :fs1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyk Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I dunno how many of you fellow CCrs shop at OReillys, but if youre used to buying our house microguard filters, STOP... They are no longer Purolators, they are now Fram... Great cost cutting measures :fs1: Ugh, I got a purolator. What's the deal? What's it gonna do to my truck? I'm noticing some higher oil pressures... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kro10000 Posted April 7, 2010 Author Share Posted April 7, 2010 You misunderstood me, the old microguard filters were purolators, and they were decent, the new microguards are now manufactured by fram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Purolator = Good Fram = Bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyk Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Purolator = Good Fram = Bad Sorry about the confusion. I have the NEW FRAM made filter. What's the problem with these? Bear in mind I have a Chevy 2.8 V6, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepcoMJ Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Purolator = Good Fram = Bad Sorry about the confusion. I have the NEW FRAM made filter. What's the problem with these? Bear in mind I have a Chevy 2.8 V6, though. the filter element is junk, it doesn't filter. the backflow preventer (check valve) is junk...it doesn't work. the point of the check valve is to keep oil in the top end between startups. so, since this doesn't work, rather than having an un-lubricated startup on only cold starts, you have un-lubricated startups on EVERY start. end result, bad lifters, bad cam, bad valves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetjeep2.5 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Only Fram filters every 3000 miles for 260,000 miles from 1994 to 2010 and when sold it the 4.0 had no lifter noise, main or rod noise on start up after oil change nor on startup even after sitting for a few days, etc. I never had a problem with Fram filters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kro10000 Posted April 7, 2010 Author Share Posted April 7, 2010 I invite you to cut one down, and compare the internals to a wix... Youll never buy a fram again, they are just cheap crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterday's Danish Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Here's a site that lists all the differences between oil filters. Good read. http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilte ... study.html Oh yeah and frams are junk. Only Wix for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KYMJ Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I never liked the looks of those Microguard filters in the first place. They looked cheap. Sixth sense I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBKrazy Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 no o'reillys up here, but i use baldwin filters anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-600JeepMJ Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Here's a site that lists all the differences between oil filters. Good read.http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilte ... study.html Oh yeah and frams are junk. Only Wix for me. :agree: yes very good read. reminded me of when I was a kid watching my dad do oil changes on small airplanes. He would always cut open the old oil filter to look any sign that the engine was about to go bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetjeep2.5 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I have read those sites before, and agree others are better, but how can 260,000 miles and none of the problems mentioned here (bad lifers, cams, etc) showing up mean all the Frams I used were terrible for my engine? :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kro10000 Posted April 7, 2010 Author Share Posted April 7, 2010 Well any filter is better than no filter, I think neglect is a large contributor to these issues, and religious maintenance can help, but if were just talking filters, the fram works but its junk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgeFan01 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 I have been using the purolators since around 99, but I was told recently(by a mechanic buddy who cuts them open once in a while) that they changed their design and are now worse than frams, so I switched to oem from my local jeep dealer. They are the same price and seam a little better quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kro10000 Posted April 7, 2010 Author Share Posted April 7, 2010 We carry Mopar filters... but from what that article said, theyre just Purolators with a Mopar logo slapped on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddzz1 Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Last time I put a Fram on the MJ after i got it, everytime I would come to a stop my oil light would come on. Pulled it off after asking here and put on a NAPA Gold (made by WIX) and the problem was solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterday's Danish Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 Yeah fram filters are notorious for low oil pressure. At hot idle on my XJ, the oil pressure would dip down below 10psi with a fram. When I switched to Wix, the psi would be steady at 20 psi. Also, if you have a 4.0HO engine, you can run a bigger filter. It spins right on without any problems. The Wix part number is 51515, or just look for the same oil filter as a 5.0 mustang. A bigger filter means cleaner oil. :banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kro10000 Posted April 7, 2010 Author Share Posted April 7, 2010 If you have an HO, sometimes you can fit a 51085, which is even bigger, its a V10 filter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterday's Danish Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 That's the regular sized Jeep filter. Is there a different part number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kro10000 Posted April 8, 2010 Author Share Posted April 8, 2010 Whoops, i meant a 51452, thats the v10 dodge filter which is actually the same size as a 51515, just checked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kro10000 Posted April 8, 2010 Author Share Posted April 8, 2010 If you want an excessive filter, than a 51459 might work... about 8-9 in long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yesterday's Danish Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 I'll have to try that and see if it works. It's kinda cramped where the oil filter is. Thanks for the part number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87Warrior Posted April 8, 2010 Share Posted April 8, 2010 Thanks for the info. Over the past few years I have studied my favorite oils, lubes, and filters carefully. The number of changes in the same product is almost scary. On a side note, I run the V8 F150 mobile1 filter. What O Reillys do you work at? They are scares here. All I ever seem to find are Advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kro10000 Posted April 8, 2010 Author Share Posted April 8, 2010 Mine is an Overland Park store, its on the SW corner of 75th and Metcalf, if you drive by and see a red run-down MJ, thatd be mine :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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