bighause Posted February 16, 2010 Author Share Posted February 16, 2010 I'm not set on either one to tell you the truth, just figured I'd mess with you a bit. I'm probably going to wait on the freebee that someone offered up earlier so bid away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComancheKid45 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Yeah I'm working out a deal with another member so these can be left alone for now....I'm keeping my eye on em though :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 car-part.com might be able to find one close to you in a junkyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Notice the broken mounting tab on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittrell Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Digging up na old one here, guys. I personally prefer this font/gauge over the newer HO setup. HO's came with this style of gauge in the idiot clusters. Does anyone know if you can drop the full Renix gauges into an HO housing using the electric HO speedometer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnj92131 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 If you are asking can you use the 87 Tach (last picture) in a H.O cluster. The answer is NO. Tach electrical connections are in a different place and the rear p.c. boards are a different size - it does not fit in the same space. Low fuel circuit board is also in a different place causing fitting problem also. Back Side of the H.O. cluster is different from Renix cluster. Printed circuit plastic foil is different and will not interchange between H.O. and Renix that I can tell. I have pictures on my phone of most of these problems. Please let us know if I have failed to understand your question correctly. JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittrell Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 No, you nailed it. I am trying to find good options for the first gen HO clusters. Of which I believe there are none. I actually think the original font/pattern looks more modern than it's replacement. The offset non symmetrical needles on the tach and speedo make my OCD tingle and all of the available overlays look tacky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Sadly, the gorgeous blue faced full cluster went away after 1987. I did some poking around before I swapped a full cluster into my 91 and just decided to go with the standard HO full cluster as there wasn't a blue faced tach that would work with the HO electronics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnj92131 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Here are some pictures I took looking a putting the 87 tach into the H.O. cluster. This picture is the 87 tach sitting in a H.O. police cluster with the 120 mph speedometer. This is what I wanted the finished product to be. 87 cluster the tach came out of. Take a look how the tach bolts in and how the electrical connections are thru the blue cluster. The Low Fuel warning board is just below the tach location. Here is a similar view of the H.O. cluster. Police cluster on top, normal H.O cluster on the bottom. Notice the height difference between the 87 tach and the H.O. tach. Rear view of the two different tachs. I started working with a dremil on a spare H.O. cluster case trying to make room for the 87 tach. But the better half wanted her kitchen counter back, so the test went back into the plastic tote 8 months ago. Actually thought about making small jumper wires to connect the 87 tach on the H.O. plastic case. But had no idea if the 87 tach would really work with the H.O. input signals. Minuit, do you know if the 87 tach will electrically work with the H.O. inputs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittrell Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Thank you for the pictures. I want to say I tried this back in '04 when I was regularly yard hopping and the gauges did not read the same when I plugged it back in to my '94. But I wanted to make sure I had not missed something. I am almost considering doing a full autometer setup at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Here's what the FSMs say. I'd say you can probably adjust the potentiometer on the 87 tach to make it work from the HO signal if you can get it wired up. 1990 FSM (87 should be the same) 4 Cylinder : 66.7 Hz/2000 rpm, 166.7 Hz/5000 rpm 6 Cylinder: 100 Hz/2000 rpm, 250 Hz/5000 rpm 1994 FSM 4 and 6 Cylinder: 66.7 Hz/2000 rpm, 166.7 Hz/5000 rpm I'll have to get my 1991 FSM and see if it agrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittrell Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I may have found an easy solution to some of my issues with the stock gauges. Problem is, I cannot locate a set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnj92131 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Kittrell, What are those gauge faces from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittrell Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I believe they are from the heyday of glow gauges, just your typical Ebay setup. Cannot seem to find a set, that photo is from a 2010 Cherokee Forum post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airborne Janitor Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Try these guys, looks like they custom work too. http://www.azzysdesignworks.com/store/88-96-cherokee-gauges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittrell Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Thank you for the link. I had looked at Azzy's but they do not do glow gauges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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