Budget Boost

[88pioneer]

Just double checking that if i throw spacers an a shackle on my manche that i won't need bigger shocks, i'm pretty sure i don't but just making sure before i go ahead and buy it

[Geonovast]

How big of a lift? About an inch you shouldn't need anything other than a toe alignment and to re-center your steering wheel.

[88pioneer]

the daystar kit on HC's website, think its 1 3/4 spacer an an extended shackle, but i think i might just go with a spacer up front to level it out

[akamcbird]

while were on the subject of budget boost... ive got shackles and coil bushings from a manche i parted, and am thinking about tossn them under my brother in laws 97 xj. should i expect any complications in the install? (rear springs are a bit sagged, hopen to level it out a bit)

[Eagle]

the daystar kit on HC's website, think its 1 3/4 spacer an an extended shackle, but i think i might just go with a spacer up front to level it out

Daystar has a budget boost for a Comanche?

[Pete M]

while were on the subject of budget boost... ive got shackles and coil bushings from a manche i parted, and am thinking about tossn them under my brother in laws 97 xj. should i expect any complications in the install? (rear springs are a bit sagged, hopen to level it out a bit)

 

 

shackles might make it worse. Look into the AALs that hellcreek is making. They fix the sag. :thumbsup:

[Eagle]

It looks like they sell the same Daystar kit for both the XJ and MJ. But MJ shackles are longer than XJ, so I wouldn't expect any (certainly not much) lift out of that kit at the rear of an MJ.

 

I'm with Pete. A full-length AAL is definitely the way to address sagging rear springs.

[88pioneer]

my leaf springs are still good, and i wasnt looking for too much lift in the rear, more of a leveling kit, motion has shackles that ill give about an inch in the rear so it should give me a little lift in the rear while leveling out the front

[Pete M]

my leaf springs are still good, and i wasnt looking for too much lift in the rear, more of a leveling kit,

 

that is exactly what hellcreek's new AAL is for. more support without lift.

[ncgamedog]

could you find a hole-to-hole measurement on the shackles? rule of thumb is for every 2" longer shackle you can expect an 1" of lift... If the chevy style shackles work...there are some nice ones offered by ORD (Offroad Design) and DIY4X. I would like to know on the hole-to-hole measurement for the daystar's b/c I might go the same route for now.

Here are a few links:

http://diy4x.com/cart/index.php?route=p ... uct_id=113

 

http://offroaddesign.com/catalog/hdREARshackles.htm

[ncgamedog]

was it ever decided if longer shocks were in order?

[88pioneer]

i've been looking for the add a leaves on hc an have only found ones for cherokees, nothing for mj's

[Pete M]

stock shocks "should" work ok for under 2" of lift.

 

 

for the AAL, see his post in our classifieds:

 

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18787

[HellCreek]

It looks like they sell the same Daystar kit for both the XJ and MJ. But MJ shackles are longer than XJ, so I wouldn't expect any (certainly not much) lift out of that kit at the rear of an MJ.

 

I'm with Pete. A full-length AAL is definitely the way to address sagging rear springs.

 

I just checked with Daystar on this, and they have discontinued this kit for the MJs and changed the part number from KJ09106 to KJ09105 for just the Cherokees. While the spacers would work to lift the front of our Comanches, Eagle is correct that the shackles would do little, if anything, to lift the rear. It looks like we will have to change our website again. Sorry :oops:

[88pioneer]

I think i'm going to go with new shocks, and i've also been seeing shock mount conversions like this, an i figured if i do this that i should be able to use rear mj shocks on the front as they will mount the same as the rear.

 

[Geonovast]

You might wanna take a closer look how the top of the front shock mounts to the body :thumbsup:

[HellCreek]

i've been looking for the add a leaves on hc an have only found ones for cherokees, nothing for mj's

 

Our website has just been updated. We have removed the MJ listing from the shackle kit, added the 3/4" and 1-3/4" front Daystar coil spacer kits for the front and added our MJ add-a-leaves. We have also added a notation that all kits on our website that are designated "RC" are Rough Country kits, so there is no confusion.

 

Thanks,

Tom

[88pioneer]

no, i know how they mount to the top as i just did the shocks on it and on my cherokee, those are for the bottom where they attach to the axle, these are for the top where they go through the wheel well.

 

[akamcbird]

sorry to hijack. :dunce: my query was a bit too far off topic. but...

 

while were on the subject of budget boost... ive got shackles and coil bushings from a manche i parted, and am thinking about tossn them under my brother in laws 97 xj. should i expect any complications in the install? (rear springs are a bit sagged, hopen to level it out a bit)

 

 

shackles might make it worse. Look into the AALs that hellcreek is making. They fix the sag. :thumbsup:

 

Pete please elaborate. if i have an xj with a saggy rear a bb kit that utilizes shackles would make problems worse? pm me if I'm out of line with this post

[Pete M]

As I understand it, the longer shackles put more leverage on the leafs (in regards to spring wrap) and can increase sag over time. A shackle should be matched to the leaf packs (as they do from the factory), not used to add height.

[Eagle]

As I understand it, the longer shackles put more leverage on the leafs (in regards to spring wrap) and can increase sag over time. A shackle should be matched to the leaf packs (as they do from the factory), not used to add height.

Pete is correct. Trying to gain lift using longer shackles is an EXCELLENT way to kill your spring pack. It looks cheap in the short term, but it becomes more expensive very quickly when you have to replace or rebuild the whole spring pack because you tried to save a few bucks.