aemsee Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I have a 87 with the old style hood prop rod (hooks to the core support instead of the inner fender). The hood on my truck weighs a friggin' ton. I have lifted hoods on Mj/Xj bodies literally tens of thousands of times. Don't remember any feeling like this. Anyone notice if earlier hoods weighed more? The springs that pop the hood up when you release it barely get it high enough to open it on the left side, and not enough on the right. :hmm: . Yeah, I know, I have too much time on my hands I guess. :nuts:
Pete M Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I hadn't noticed that. But if the snow ever goes away, I have examples of both types of hoods here and I can grab a scale and go see. Remind me about that when/if it gets warmer outside. :thumbsup:
summerinmaine Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I have a 87 with the old style hood prop rod (hooks to the core support instead of the inner fender). The hood on my truck weighs a friggin' ton. I have lifted hoods on Mj/Xj bodies literally tens of thousands of times. Don't remember any feeling like this. Anyone notice if earlier hoods weighed more? The springs that pop the hood up when you release it barely get it high enough to open it on the left side, and not enough on the right. :hmm: . Yeah, I know, I have too much time on my hands I guess. :nuts: Mine is an 87 as well. Is this the support you mean (only pic I could find with the hood open)? And yes, the hood is pretty heavy, cause there are no lifting spring in the hinges or any counterbalance mechanism, but the latch springs pop mine up just fine.
Phoenix of Fury Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Not sure if it makes a difference or not - I've got an '86, and the hood seems to weigh the same as my roommates '99 Cherokee. I've never thought to myself, man, this thing is heavy.
rworks Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 You could always do this: CLICK Here I did what he did, but I used two supports. Works fine. No more rod to screw with.
aemsee Posted January 27, 2009 Author Posted January 27, 2009 I have a 87 with the old style hood prop rod (hooks to the core support instead of the inner fender). The hood on my truck weighs a friggin' ton. I have lifted hoods on Mj/Xj bodies literally tens of thousands of times. Don't remember any feeling like this. Anyone notice if earlier hoods weighed more? The springs that pop the hood up when you release it barely get it high enough to open it on the left side, and not enough on the right. :hmm: . Yeah, I know, I have too much time on my hands I guess. :nuts: Mine is an 87 as well. Is this the support you mean (only pic I could find with the hood open)? And yes, the hood is pretty heavy, cause there are no lifting spring in the hinges or any counterbalance mechanism, but the latch springs pop mine up just fine. Yup, that is the type of support. Thanks.
aemsee Posted January 27, 2009 Author Posted January 27, 2009 Perhaps the hinges are binding. That was my first thought, but they are lubed and free. It is almost like the ribbing is filled with concrete. I must investigate further :hmm:
mvusse Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I have an 87 MJ with the prop rod on the radiator support, and a 94 XJ with the prop on the passenger fender. Weight of the hoods feels about equal.
JeepcoMJ Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 the difference is the insulation in the hood. it gathers weight as it sucks in oil :brows: from leaks, and also absorbs moisture. as the years progressed, the hood insulation was made of slightly better material which doesn't quite "absorb" anything so much as "deter" it. the other difference may be a lack of insulation on the newer style, and having insulation on the older style. wanna make it better? remove the old insulation. if that's not your case, then your jeep is on 'roids
aemsee Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 No insulation on mine. I even went out and checked for old mud in the ribbing. Nada. This truck has been painted a couple of times. It may be an aftermarket hood for all I know? Tried to find my fish scale to weigh it. It is eluding me this evening. Time for beer. :cheers:
HOrnbrod Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 the difference is the insulation in the hood. it gathers weight as it sucks in oil :brows: from leaks, and also absorbs moisture. as the years progressed, the hood insulation was made of slightly better material which doesn't quite "absorb" anything so much as "deter" it. the other difference may be a lack of insulation on the newer style, and having insulation on the older style. The hood pad insulation is not an issue. Maybe adds a pound of extra weight if that. The 97+ pads are even lighter by half and fit the same. Your problem is in the hinges. If anything an aftermarket hood would be a lighter gauge metal. Sure your rig hasn't been armored? :cheers:
jtdesigns Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 aemsee,, I'm thinking you need to just hit the gym there buddy... :rotfl2: Maybe you could ride over and help Wildman carry doors... hehe,, sorry I couldnt resist... Its the Wharf Rat in me...
HOrnbrod Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 I did what he did, but I used two supports. Works fine. No more rod to screw with. Any pics and/or measurements rworks? Thanks :cheers:
aemsee Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 aemsee,, I'm thinking you need to just hit the gym there buddy... :rotfl2: Maybe you could ride over and help Wildman carry doors... hehe,, sorry I couldnt resist... Its the Wharf Rat in me... You could be right there dude. Fibromyalgia kicks my @$$ big time. So bad I might have to switch to drinking pony's. I've got a couple convertible top hydraulic cylinders sittin' around someplace. May be time for an invention :brows:
rworks Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 I did what he did, but I used two supports. Works fine. No more rod to screw with. Any pics and/or measurements rworks? Thanks :cheers: No pics. Used the instructions from the link already posted in this thread. Wasn't hard at all.
jtdesigns Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Basically all those supports are, are gas struts you'd find on suv's rear hatches.. I know Tein makes a kit, but its outrageous what they charge for it.
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