Wanker Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Are these transmissions really that bad? I found a Comanche that a guy is selling for parts. The transmission was rebuilt six months ago. I was going to buy it for the transmission to convert my 2WD to 4WD, but I have the AX-15. Will the Peugot be a pretty straight forward swap? Should I swap the Peugot in or just leave it 2WD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Are these transmissions really that bad? I found a Comanche that a guy is selling for parts. The transmission was rebuilt six months ago. I was going to buy it for the transmission to convert my 2WD to 4WD, but I have the AX-15. Will the Peugot be a pretty straight forward swap? Should I swap the Peugot in or just leave it 2WD? Considering that parts for the Peugeot are efefctively not avauilable, and incredibly expensive if you can find them, I would be VERY skeptical of any claims that a Peugeot tranny was "rebuilt." If you pursue it, ask exactly what was done and ask to see receipts. No receipts = no rebuild. The BA 10/5 is a light duty transmission. If you don't hammer on it, it's fine for street driving. The one in my 88 XJ is at 275,000+ miles and it's still running. I run a molybdenum additive in the gear oil, and I don't abuse the tranny. I have taken it off-road, fairly extensively, but with a stock suspension and 30" tires. The things that usually go are the synchros, and the bearings. You save the synchros by not trying to speed shift it, and you save the bearings by not always keeping the accelerator pinned to the floorboards. There's no question you'd be better off with an AX-15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanker Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 Thanks for the fast response. I'll be sure to ask to see the receipts for the rebuild. I've been looking for a 4WD AX-15, but they're pretty hard to find around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 One of the guys in the North Atlantic Chapter of NAXJA had a BA 10/5 rebuilt several years ago. That's when parts were available, and IIRC he paid $1500 or $1800 to have it rebuilt. That's what you should be looking for. If you see a receipt for $50 ... that's not a rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanker Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 We spoke briefly this afternoon about the truck and he did mention spending $1400 on rebuilding the transmission. I'm not sure what I will do. I might hold out and try to find an AX-15 to be on the safe side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I still wouldn't touch it. More than one person has paid that exorbitant amount to rebuild a Peugeot and had it fail again within a few thousand miles. I'd avoid it like the plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroader461 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I have the original one still in my truck...had 195K on it b4 it took a dump and that was due to a leak i never fixed...had it rebuilt for $600 bucks and still running it today...has 206K on it now and i run Full Synthetic gear oil and it shifts like butter.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 FWIW My peugot box had the clutch and input & output shaft bearings replaced recently. So at least I know those parts are available for it. My wallet didn't like it much though! :ack: And the second gear synchro is still non existant. Cheers, dreaming of a 4.0L + AX15 :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Luke, I thought you had a 2.8L? That means you have an AX-5. The Peugeot is a 4.0L-only trans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvusse Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 FWIWCheers, dreaming of a 4.0L + AX15 :cheers: I'm living your dream :D Build sheet says NV3550, but it's a 94 XJ. which I believe means AX15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroader461 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 FWIWCheers, dreaming of a 4.0L + AX15 :cheers: I'm living your dream :D Build sheet says NV3550, but it's a 94 XJ. which I believe means AX15. Yea thats gotta be a mistake...i don't believe the NV3550 came out till '99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 2000. At least in TJs. My AX-15 came from a 99 TJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robfg67 Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 My '89 is bone stock and as far as I can tell has never been wheeled. I have 214K on the Peugot with no problems whatsoever. Reaching for wood as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 The peugeot in my 2wd 88 blew up from daily driving and 30" tires. Wasn't doing anything at the time, just tooling along on the freeway with rush hour traffic. BANG! :shake: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerocorey Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Few years back I converted my '89 to an AX-15. Sold the Peugeot to a guy for $150. All he needed was some ring that goes around the base of the shift knob or something small and trivial like that. It was probably a $10 part when it was available. Don't swap in a questionably reliable (yes, there are a few out there who have had good fortune with the Peugeot, but it's still a turd) transmission only to find yourself paying through the nose for parts or swapping in an AX-15 down the road. Even without the reliability question, the parts availability issue alone should keep you from wanting to use a BA/10. Do it once, do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 The BA/10 is junk. That being said mine is holding up to some severe abuse, but I plan on swapping in a external ax15 here in the immediate future. Mine will include the t-case as well if you want to come to va to pick it up. If not I wil turn it in for dirty aluminum scrap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Luke, I thought you had a 2.8L? That means you have an AX-5. The Peugeot is a 4.0L-only trans. Interesting Pete :hmm: I only know this from the guy that pulled the box out for repairs and he said it was a peugeot. He does get a bit confused sometimes though :nuts: D'ya think if I got the vehicle ID number checked out that would clarify matters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 A photo of your transmission would be helpful. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 A photo of your transmission would be helpful. :thumbsup: Is this an AX-5 then Pete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Looks like one. The gi-normous rusty intermediate plate is a good indicator of an AX series transmission. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Thanks once again! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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