AnotherOldJeepGuy

Spotted this Honcho today. Across a 5 lane street so I couldn't get close up, but looks pretty good from this distance.

Great work @hgeranium! Glad you got it! I am not familiar with the two wrench trick, maybe I'll google that one if I can't get it loose with what I have. I do have a breaker bar, and a neighbor with a bigger breaker bar and I'm hoping that gets it. The pics you included are nice additions to the thread. FWIW replacing the VC gasket was not bad either. Will take a bit longer than this but fairly straight forward. I used the Fel-Pro gasket. The problem I had with that job was the plastic hoses that come out of the top, the smaller one that comes from the back ended up breaking as I was trying to remove it, and the larger one in the front was already cracked so I ended up replacing both to finish the job. Getting the larger new one in at the VC was pretty tight but with enough persuasion it went in. Just to summarize, your plan was to use Fel-Pro 70301 for the large one, and the other two from the kit you got from Amazon correct, was that how it played out?

Glad to hear a vote for the Fel-Pro kit. I'll probably start with that. Took this pic today, I decided to take a look and a pic of the before. This is before, but after I cleaned the area and have put maybe 5 miles on the truck. First step in any of these jobs is cleaning, step 2 is usually figure how what tools are needed. As the pic shows mine is indeed the non-torx variety. [@watchamakalit, was yours this bolt style as well?] FWIW it appears that the leak or at least the notable one is the surface touching the engine, the others don't look wet yet. I'll still replace all the rings, but from the picture just replacing the big one might actually stop the leak. In my tool prep, I find: 5/8 fits about the same as 16mm. The bolt head looks perfectly find, not rounded off or anything (not yet at least) Neither fits as good as I would like if this is one of the extremely tight ones. The next typical size down from 5/8 {ie 10/16} is 9/16, that's too small. The next typical size down from 16mm is 15mm, that's too small. I kinda doubt this is a 19/32 or a 15.5mm

For what it's worth, well about $25, this kit on ebay has at least one review noting a perfect fit if your attaching bolt is not the torx version. I believe mine is not the torx version. If the other resources fail, I'll give this a shot. I have some luxury to leave the jeep disabled if needed for a short time since I have a second vehicle. Saw lots of this same part number for a little less.

Yep! By the time we are done, we should have a pretty good 2025 reference

I ordered the Felpro kit cause I am on first name basis with my local Napa, and it was in stock. But when I go to pick up later today I am taking Cruisers list with me to ask if they can match them up. The Mahle was not listed at Napa, and was only listed as special order at O'Reilly so not ordering that at the moment. I am also going to email the local Jeep dealer with the Mopar numbers and see what they say.

A little more digging.. I am not sure how to do apples-to-apples here, but assuming cruiser's infor is accurate and it probably is, it doesn't really look like either of these kits that claim to be correct are actually correct. At least not exactly correct. I have no idea how much play is allowed in these sizes for a fit that seals and wears correctly. And of course I am assuming here my web search was accurate for the comparison.

Thanks, and looking forward to here how it goes!

I can't really say if there is any spraying happening, but the oil accumulation was immediate at idle, it would not be a stretch to think it could spray some as the pressure increases (or tries to). After I get the seals in I'll try to clean up as much as I can to see where it comes back. The location of the OFA, and the obvious leak, clearly could be spreading all over anything below it. I'll be sure to post back how it goes. It could be a week or 2 though, I have what is supposed to be a "routine" outpatient surgery in a couple days so I'll probably give it a few days after that before working on anything. I am sure this will help significantly, but will it stop all the leaks is TBD.

I just did a gunk cleaning all around the filter adapter, and as soon as I started up it was wet with oil again. So clearly the is a big contributor to my leaks. I already replaced the valve cover gasket a few months ago. I also bought the oil pan and RM Seal gasket, but I am a bit concerned that I have the skill to do the RMS. Seems risky for a first timer to get the old seam worked out and the new one in cleanly. But will definitely tackle the Oil filter assy soon. Oh for the oil in the filter, I poke a hole in the top of the filter when I am changing it with the theory that releasing the vacuum will let more of the oil drain out. Never attempted to prove this works, but I do it anyway..

I guess I'll get it and find out! I'll post back what I actually get and if it all fits. It does say it is guaranteed to fit so if it doesn't, pretty sure I can return it, I am on first name basis with the local NAPA crew!

No problem, 3 is far superior to 0! I am a little confused, the Napa online catalog show this as being 5 gaskets? Sounds like you believe this items is only 1 gasket not 5? Am I missing something?

Here's a kit at Napa that says it is guaranteed to fit. Anyone used it? https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/FPGES72962

Most of the time I check with the dealer, and tell them it's a 1990, they just tell me their database no longer goes back that far. Can you post the OEM Mopar kit part number and where one can get it these days? 1990 4.0 Renix btw, just in case..

Good Install Job!

I'll give that a shot! Thanks.

If anyone that has this harness installed can post a few pics of the finished job that would be great. I see I can squeeze the two relays in beside the battery and RF connection is just below that. But I don't really see a great path over to the LF. The harness seems to be long enough to get to the LF if it was straight across, but you can't go straight across unless I am missing something.

I did look for a thread on this already to add to, but didn't really see one that was for non-comanche but still Jeep, so I guess I'll start it. This sure looks like a Jeep of some kind but I don't know what it is or from when it is. I see it around town from time to time so it seems like a good rare jeep thread starter...

For what it's worth and for future reference here, here's what I ended up doing and things seems to be back to normal for the moment. Although I don't have a lot of confidence I can drive through another puddle or even in a hard rain now. I bought new slide pin boots, but they were not the right shape, so didn't use them. I did pull the pins on FR and re-lube them. They were pretty dry. At the same time I put a bit more lube where the pads slide on the caliper (although I just tried to work some in rather than removing the pads.) This seemed to take care of the brakes grabbing, but there was still a lot of creaking. I pulled off the axle bearing cap to look at the grease in there. It looked fine and I didn't pull the rotor. I did notice that the bearing were a tiny bit loose. Was not expecting this since there's a locking "nut" with a cotter pin that should have kept them where they were, and they didn't have any wiggle when I put them in. Either way I snugged the bearing nut, which probably amounted to maybe 1/4-1/3 revolution and this took the minor wiggle out. I put thing back together again and the creaking went away. I really don't think the bearings where part of the problem. What I think more than that is that the grease I added to where the pads come in contact with the caliper, or the added grease to the pins, or both, needed a few runs back and forth in my driveway for the grease to get where it needed to be fully and that is really the fix. But I can't prove it. Now I guess I need to find a big puddle to run through and see if this starts over. Here in Texas we are in a fairly good drought so I don't know how long till another puddle shows up for the test. Even though the LF was not experiencing any issue, I went ahead and re-lubed those also, and snugged up the axle nut since this side and loosed slightly as well. Probably only a 1/4 turn at most this side. Assuming the water got in to the slide pins and started all this, the need to replace the boots is still something I'll do if I can find the right ones. If not I may go ahead with new calipers, especially if I can't find the right boots. But for the moment and probably at least until it rains again, I appear to have a stable system.

Heading over to O'Reilly's to get some new slide pin boots. I put in new pins when I did the rotors and pads but didn't put in new boots. There's not a lot of moving parts, and even less that water "should be" able to get into. So I'm doing the easiest thing first, re-lube the slide pins and put on new rubber boots. Will probably re-lube where the pads rest on the caliper also. It that doesn't do it, I may swap in a new caliper since I don't have the tools to rebuild the ones I have. But I'm hoping this does it .

I was on my way home a yesterday and not far from the house there was a puddle, maybe 12ft long, at the deepest probably 4" or so. It was a side alley coming up on a stop sign so I was going pretty slow, probably 10-15mph. After going through the puddle I continued home, which was about another 100 yards or so. By the time I got to my driveway there was quite a moaning sound from FR side with noticeable vibration when brakes were applied (this is the side the puddle was on). I eased to a stop in my normal parking place. I was assuming that since this was obviously because something go wet, once it dried out it would be back to where it was before the puddle. Just went out and moved back and forth a dozen times or so with varying amount of brake force. Still making varying degrees of groaning noise with vibrations. And I think RF is actually locking up as I get close to a stop. What got messed up by getting wet? Worth noting here is I replaced rotors, bearings and pads about a year ago to get rid of a moan in the front while driving, which was successful and all has been fine until creeping through this puddle. Oh, there was no pothole in the puddle, it was a smooth slow run through the puddle. Thanks

Looks great!

Ah they do exist. I should look into getting my Jeep repainted, except for the one fender that I had to un-bend the shape is pretty good. Hmm..

Lego Lamborghini Countach sighted in my den..the only version of this car I can afford

That looks great! I wish mine looked even half that good! Are the stripes and "Pioneer" logo painted on? Seems like I looked into getting new decals, once, maybe 20 years ago and was told at that time they were already discontinued.