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I did not paint it myself or acquire it from the paint shop, a friend of a friend did it, I am guessing they mixed it based on the code/what it calls for. With that said, i think it was a gallon, but could have used a bit more. We didnt paint the inside of the bed either. OK. I'm just trying to get an idea of how much it would take so that's helpful. Thanks! Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

Thanks for the link. How much paint did you use? Did they custom mix it at the local place? Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

Looks amazing! Great work. Where did you find the mango tango? I've been searching for it cause I'd like to do mine that color but can't find it anywhere.

Use a dab of anti-seize putting the new one in. That is a definite necessity.

Funny how easy it comes off when you can beat the crap out of it. The spring loaded contacts were stuck down and I can't even get one of them to come out. Definitely was the problem. Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

Not really. A LOT of AutoZone parts have a lifetime warranty. They just play the odds and figure you won't have the vehicle by the time you need to warranty the part. This is true but the autozone ones are still over $100 so we'll just have to see what happens.

Have another beer first. :cheers: Way ahead of ya! :cheers: Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

Well I ordered it and it'll be here at the end of the week. Now to finish removing the old one.....

Sometime ago I think it was around July of last year rockauto had the dorman nss for $5 maybe an error in their system now they have it for $116 couple of guys on here snagged a couple @ $5 a piece I even picked up a spare myself..maybe one of them might be willing to sell u one on the cheap don't see anything wrong with an aftermarket one not much going on in there but I maybe wrong but u can find aftermarket ones on eBay for around $30 Right I've been looking and found one made by AM Autoparts p/n am-42413529 that has a 10 year warranty for $36. If they warranty for that long then I assume it's of good quality.

No not yet. I got pissed cause the NSS broke so I had to take a break and have a beer.

Right, usually I try to get the Mopar part but I really don't want to spend that kind of money right now. I think I'd rather take a chance on a used NSS than a new part store one. I am curious to know if anyone has used a parts store one for any length of time.

OK so are the Aftermarket NSS any good? I can find used factory NSS for around $60. New Aftermarket seem around $100-150. Would I be better off with a used factory than going Aftermarket? I assume as long as it isn't physically broken it should be fine.

Well good news and bad. The good news, bypassing the NSS like hornbrod suggested worked. It turned over with the key. I had to use this diagram as the plug is different in 97+ Bad news is that after 3 hours of greasing, pb blasting, and back and forth with the screwdriver the threads on the NSS finally gave out and the nut will no longer stay on. I read multiple threads on how to remove the NSS and was patient and careful but it still broke. So now my question is, how in the world to get it off. I can't really get a good angle to pry the back of the NSS with a screwdriver and it still doesn't want to budge. Worse news is that I have issues with my XJ that are tied to the NSS as well so now I'm really scared to try that one since it's my DD. What would be the downsides to permanently bypassing the NSS? I know the possibility of starting in gear is there but the likelyhood of me doing that is basically zero. I know the NSS has something to do with Overdrive so I'm assuming that probably wouldn't work. Sent from my HTC6525LVW using Tapatalk

yes it does. :D possibly my favorite possession. I want that room....

Yeah when I talked to them on the phone they started talking about other charges to get it out of the truck. Luckily it worked out I could have it delivered at work and use the receiving dock.

I have heard this before. What is the reasoning behind it? I would think the grease would be good to keep any moisture out. Is it that sensitive that grease causes problems?

Idk if you missed me saying it before when I say jumping the starter I mean I did use a jumper from the battery to the small starter post. The engine turns over no problem. It doesn't start however because of the no spark. The no spark issue I'm not worried about because I know how to move forward with that. The NSS I'm not as familiar with and that's why I'm asking. I've checked the fuses and none are blown but I will run a test light across them. The 98 XJ has been a huge help and I've used it many times to double check but I will definitely go back and check again. I am to that point now where it's either the NSS and/or a break in the wiring somewhere. I have a few spare CPS and coils I will be using to work out the no spark issue.

That doesn't sound fun at all...

Ok thanks.

And I'm suggesting he may not even have an NSS problem. What OP do you mean by a full 97 swap? I'm a little confused how you say for sure the NSS isn't the problem. And if it isn't, what else could it be? NSS can cause a no crank condition and yes there is a chance it isn't the problem, however it is the most likely cause of the no crank. And a 97 swap is taking an MJ and a 97-01 XJ and putting everything from the drivetrain, interior, wiring, the front body panels, and in my case the axles from the XJ in the MJ. Basically the only thing original to the MJ is the main body itself. Set the NSS issue aside. If you have everything connected correctly, it should start and run, regardless of the NSS. The fact that it does not, the NSS is not the culprit. This doesn't make sense. Youre basically saying that as long as it's connected it works? So by that I should assume that a battery being connected, having 12v or 1v, it should still work? Parts can go bad and cause problems. I don't understand what you are trying to say other than ignore the NSS. The NSS can in fact cause a no crank if it's bad and is the most likely cause in this case. That's not to say that other things aren't causing problems but it's best to start troubleshooting with the most likely culprit first.

This I will definitely try. Does the NSS still need to be plugged in or can I have it unplugged when I do this? Just making sure it doesn't need some sort of signal through another wire.

And I'm suggesting he may not even have an NSS problem. What OP do you mean by a full 97 swap? I'm a little confused how you say for sure the NSS isn't the problem. And if it isn't, what else could it be? NSS can cause a no crank condition and yes there is a chance it isn't the problem, however it is the most likely cause of the no crank. And a 97 swap is taking an MJ and a 97-01 XJ and putting everything from the drivetrain, interior, wiring, the front body panels, and in my case the axles from the XJ in the MJ. Basically the only thing original to the MJ is the main body itself.

It won't turn over with the key at all no matter what gear. I have to jump the starter to get it to turn over. Since there is no spark it doesn't actually start, just turns over. The only thing I could really think of causing it would be the NSS.

OK well tomorrow I will be pulling the NSS and cleaning it.

I haven't taken it completely off yet. I've heard that people usually end up breaking them in the process so I'm hesitant to do it. I'm confident in myself but I'm just trying to weigh my options. I'm guessing you are saying it's most likely the NSS though?