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Why do we only hear about two theories; evolution or creation? Why couldn’t there be a third choice – God created the universe and earth and we evolved from there? :dunno: I was about to post that idea - in general, though, I think most people either swing one way or another.

what do you mean by exlusive? Like, can you be Christian but not believe in Creationism; or is it, you are Christian, so you have to believe in Creationism?

Do you guys think that Christianity/Religious and Creationism are mutually exclusive?

You should start playing again. It's so amazing.

You betcha. It's only the best sport in the world. sweet, I play with some friends occasionally. mad fun to play and really cool to watch also. I'm pretty much addicted to it. I love it so much. More than my MJ.

You betcha. It's only the best sport in the world.

I'm the guy on the left. This was about 10 days ago at an Ultimate tournament.

Sorry you interpreted it as me being argumentative. I wasn't.

thats the problem right there, peopls minds can not comprehend that there is no begin and no end for god, they don't really understand what the word infinity means, or forever, our minds are built around a world that does have a beging and a end and so we can't understand god. and so people will just throw that "idea" out the door, and believe in evolution cause its easier to understand. I don't think that people believe in evolution because it's easier to understand. IMO, it's much easier to understand that God created all creatures at one time. I also think that many people have various reasons for believe or not believing in evolution, and that they may not be religiously motivated.

I'm sorry, who am I arguing with?

My curiosity wants to know both!

Just remember that all these gradual changes took place over an immense amount of time.

Ah, it got all the way to the 'download' part. It's no biggie - I have some downtime at work and was going to read through it to figure out some electrical issues I have.

Is there a copy of this that's not at this link? I am unable to open it due to firewall problems.

I can agree with this statement.

I know a lot of people say that science is a religion and an idol. I find this to be false. Science explains things in our world. Usually, in depth. The ideas that science backs are repeatable, they have withstood scrutiny from countless individuals. Science is flexible. If scientists get more data/information that disproves what was previously thought, then science has absolutely no problem revising its stance. OTOH, those very religious folks will not consider new data/info and they will never change their minds. I have some very close friends who are creationists and die hard christians. But, I think they're wrong. I'm not an athiest, but I don't believe in God, either. However, I'm open to change. If something comes along to convince me that some higher power is around, I'd be more than willing to change my mind. IMO, even if you take away everything, all scientific facts, etc. it sounds more plausible that: 1. Things came together by chance and have evolved into what it is now than 2. An invisible meta-physical dude/dudette that always existed created everything, down to the smallest process.

Sadly, I can't watch YT at work :(

I am just curious to what people think. I enjoy a good debate. Please keep it civil. I am an evolutionist. I am also a Geologist. I think Creation doesn't belong in science class because it's not science. :nanner:

Now that's a good idea. That's a badass car.

Alright, did some more testing: Tested the ground tab on the socket against the battery ground. Came up "OL" which indicates an open circuit. I then tested the metal prong on the wire that goes into the socket against the battery ground and came up with .1ohms. I then tested the bare wire (made a notch in the insulation) against the battery ground and it came up .1 ohm. So it seems the socket needs replacing. What's the easiest way to do this? When I replaced the other side, I didn't want to try to splice new wiring on, so I cut the socket off with a dremel. Talk about a major PITA.

I can see that. As previously mentioned, I have already replaced the driver side socket since the tab rusted out all the way. The passenger side did have some water in it after our last rain. I'll double check the connections thoroughly and report back with the resistance values I get.

lol. I'm sure glad I didn't stick with those specs. Turns out I really like having an auto. I'm also glad I didn't drive 8 hrs to find one!!!!

So, what types of problems can cause a voltage drop of 2.5V? I'm gonna try to dig into this some today, barring rain.

At the time, I just checked the prongs inside of the socket body. I did this to ensure that voltage was even present inside the socket. This way I know that there's something present in the socket and that the socket works. I had a problem with the driver side not working at at, and it was a bad ground tab. The next step is to check the resistance between: 1. Socket tabs and battery 2. Wiring (directly before the socket) and the battery 3. Wiring (directly before the socket) and the socket tabs These steps will allow me to determine which part of the circuit is at fault and narrow it down to a more specific component. As I understand it, the resistance should be less than 1 ohm. Obviously, the lower the resistance, the better. What would cause a loss of 3V from the battery to the socket? Excess resistance in the wiring? Bad ground? Poor connections?

I narrowed down my electrical issues: DOME LIGHT 1. Driver side B-pillar harness checks out ok. 2. Passenger side B-pillar harness shows ~12V with door open and closed on both of the blades on the connector (always on and door only). Where does the wiring for that run? Down the B-pillar and through the cab? GAUGE CLUSTER 1. I turned on the parking lights and the passenger side one did not come on (the one under the headlight). 2. Tested the socket and only found ~9.5V at the socket. What could cause having a 3V drop from battery to the light? Bad ground?