Sir Sam

In preparation for installing the axle I sprayed the leaf springs. They were basically bare steel, or one step above it. So I prepped them by cleaning with Acetone and a microfiber rag. I had a ton of high temp rustoleum black around so I used that, hit the leaves with a bunch of coats of. Might not be the best prep or cleanup or even paint for the long term, but its gotta be better than bare and I'll its under the jeep anyway. Oh and I found the bushing wasn't fully/correctly pressed into one of the springs. So one bushing sticks out too far to the right, and the other sticks out too far to the left. I'd say the combined tolerance stackup is approaching 3/4". Grrrrrrr. Guess I'll give the balljoint press a try to center them.

Rolled the MJ into the garage and started prepping the KJ axle, got the KJ brackets - lower control arm, shock mount, and spring pad cutoff, and I am half done grinding the tube smooth. Brackets to cutoff: Spring pad cleaned up: Everything cutoff:

They see me playin, they hatin.

Last spring not this winter:

Thats cool for you. As I posted above I was counting in weeks not days. Not sure how you got free shipping but it was $70 for my pair. Do tell your secrets!

Seems I ruffled some feathers by posting a a review.

They offered a lift spring that was not on their website in the heavy duty (MT) weight rating. When I called they said they had an order in for several sets and it would be delivered to them from the manufacturer in 2 weeks. He made it sound like the initial order or group buy for the other couple of dozen had been in process for something like 12 weeks. Makes it sound like long lead time for the lift option.

Ya, based on their rated capacity I don't think they are technically a MT spring, but who knows what a new OEM spring would have been rated to the same way. What I should have asked, was compared to their regular spring how much lift it would provide. Or the dimensions of the spring to understand how they varied from the "no lift" Yup I'm a little critical. I spent $500 and got a product that was 5 weeks later than expected with a few minor criticisms, so I posted.

Got my springs in, finally. I would hate to have been someone who had to wait from them from the initial order. I ordered back in early sept and was told it would be 2 weeks untill they shipped. I finally got the springs last week. So springs opinions. The military wrap is not super tight, but I suppose it will do what it is supposed to. Springs are beefy and heavy. They are not painted, just "oil rubbed". I will likely remove the overload springs, clean everything with degreaser, and paint black. The center pin is not very tight and the overload springs will spin on the main springs. The centering pin nut looks like someone smashed it with a rock to get it get to length. I'll remove it when I paint it, and then put it back together with a castellated lock nut, tack it in place and then round it out. To fit my spring perch kit the nut will need to be rounded off. Overall not bad, took a long time and was comparatively expensive for lacking in a few things like paint, decently tight centering pin, and a center pin nut that doesn't look like it was chiseled off with 1957 Cadillac bumper.

owch man bummer, I feel your pain on the time, Cragislist is probably your best bet for selling it.

Like Pete said the 8.25 with disks is readily available at junkyards out of 2003+ Liberty's. I have one from an 05 diesel Liberty I'm using in mine, this has 3.73s and limited slip rear end. Some KJ rears even had 4.10s from the factory, if you find a renegade it may have the 4.10s in it. Most KJ rears will have 3.55s which is good for matching MJ fronts.

Don't recall his name. He told me about their lift built springs, but wasn't able to give a clear answer about how much lift they provided. But it's a MT spring with some lift so I think I'll be happier with he ability to keep it low going spring under.

So I did Call GS, sounded like they had an order in for some lifted MT springs. Sounds like I could go with those and SUA and if needed a shackle lift to get some more. I'm thinking this is how I'll go.

Interesting. That's more food for thought. My old springs are so sagged and uneven I'm not sure what my stock was. I don't really want to wind up at 26" but 24" sounds good unloaded. And the metric ton sounds good as well. Might just pickup both both sets of perches and decide which one works the best with the GS MT. I wish GS offered some different height options.

Thanks man! Got home to measure, I have one side sitting at 21" and the other at 24" right now with the springs sitting in a ghetto rig setup on the KJ coil buckets(for rolling around only). Friend of mine has a SUA sitting at 23 that supposedly has 3.5" springs. I'm thinking this puts stock height at about 19" from center to flare lip. This would mean a SOA with zero lift should put me around ~25". I have some greasable XJ length shackles that I could use to lower it a little if it ends up being too high for me in the rear.

Horn, ya I know it will be higher. Right now I have the MJ with stock springs sitting on the rear end. It's higher than before but I like about where it is sitting now. That's why I was asking how much you got over stock. But..... I don't want it way higher than it is now. An inch or two over what I have now I could deal with. Assuming you are sua......would you be able to measure from your rear wheel center vertically to the bottom of the flare. That would let me do some maths and measuring to see where I would be assuming your final spring settle.

So I guess I've decided on GS leafs, and I think I am going to use this kit to SOA: http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/3SSsmall.html

Thanks that good to know. Sounds like they are the right height for me to start with. Combined with soa should put me in a good position.

Hornbrod do you have the GS 1700lb springs or is did they have a metric ton spring that I can't see anymore? How do these GS springs compare in terms of height to stock? They don't say they are built to be lift springs so while I'd expect them not to be sagged how does the height compare to stock 4wd or 2wd?

So been looking and researching, the only places I see that seem to sell leaf springs for the MJ are Rustys and a place I have never heard of called general spring: http://www.generalspringkc.com/product_p/97-571.htm Now the 1700lb spring still comes in a little short of the metric ton springs, but I suppose its good enough. Con, $500 shipped for 3 springs. Rustys springs are cheaper at $300 w/o shipping but only come in 4" lift variety. This would mean I would need to do a SUA setup instead, which i don't really prefer. http://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-suspension/jeep-leaf-springs-leaf-spring-accessories/jeep-mj-comanche-84-91-suspension-leaf-springs/rustys-leaf-springs-mj-4-rear-pair.html Any other thoughts for me?

I ripped the dana 35 out of the CRD MJ last night and took it along with some other stuff to the scrapper. I have a 8.25 from an 05 KJ CRD with disks, limited slip and 3.73s. Its need coil spring perches and a few other brackets cut off but I think I'm going to use it. I think front will be going with a LP D30 due to clearance issues with the engine oil pan, I have a set of 3.73s for a LP D30. That said, I got the axle out of the way in the garage by setting the MJ down on it now that the D35 is gone and ratchet strapping it down. Springs are old and not sitting level. Time for new springs, perches, and u bolts. What suppliers do you guys recommend these days for springs? I'm looking for stock height since its SOA with an 8.25, if I really need more lift later I'll go with a different shackle. I'd like to go with something near the metric ton weight rating. Most of the time a wilderness topper will be on the Jeep which is HEAVY. Thoughts/links for me?

Theres another photo of a RWD mustang with the chains on the front.........people know what they know.

Thanks. Paid $200, what a steal. Yup, perfect for me. Last August. No I have not used it....the MJ is still a work in progress....yeah.

I got a wildernest!

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