mattbuch96 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Has anyone ever swapped a 2 spoke steering wheel for a 3 spoke? I took off my 2 spoke and now I am concerned I cannot do the conversion any help? Thanks! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Easy swap. The horn mechanisms are different -- make sure you get all the small parts, and print up a diagram showing how they go together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuch96 Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Thanks, the thing is I don't have a small horn....... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuch96 Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Easy swap. The horn mechanisms are different -- make sure you get all the small parts, and print up a diagram showing how they go together. Do you know where I could find the diagram? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Here's the diagram for the 3-spoke wheel from the FSM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 You may also need to grab the spring that goes with the three-spoke wheel, which isn't pictured. It's the one that puts pressure on the steering lock plate. Whether or not it's because of a two-spoke to three-spoke swap I don't know, but when I bought my MJ the horn didn't work because the cancelling cam was missing. I had to find another spring because when I put in the cancelling cam the spring I had was too long and I actually bent the lock plate trying to compress it enough to put it back together. Best bet is to get everything from the same donor, eventually what I wound up doing after having to go back to the yard for more tiny little parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Note that the diagram shows one screw -- there are three. The steering column has an index mark. I hope you didn't obliterate it when pulling the 2-spoke wheel. You'll need it to correctly align the "new" wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuch96 Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Note that the diagram shows one screw -- there are three. The steering column has an index mark. I hope you didn't obliterate it when pulling the 2-spoke wheel. You'll need it to correctly align the "new" wheel. So I think I have everything Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Looks like you've got the entire button, but do you have everything it pushes? There should be momentary switch poking through the steering lock plate and steering wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Like gogmorgo said above you're going to need parts 11-13 in the below pic for the grounding wire assembly. The 2-spoke steering wheel does not have these parts inside the column. Best bet is to get them from a 3-spoke wheel donor at the junkyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuch96 Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Like gogmorgo said above you're going to need parts 11-13 in the below pic for the grounding wire assembly. The 2-spoke steering wheel does not have these parts inside the column. Best bet is to get them from a 3-spoke wheel donor at the junkyard. I think I only need 12-13 the extension is on back if the steering wheel already if I am correct. Thank you for your help! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuch96 Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it? I will take if off sometime this week, is a slow project with me being in school :hmm: I took the cover off my old steering wheel and I was worried that I wouldn't be able to do this conversion. I will take if off and see what is in the column and snap a pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuch96 Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it? So this is what I got, what I can see from here is that I have part 12 the cam cancelling w/o tilt and all I need is the retainer (13) and pin (15) Correct? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Correct. Stick a bare wire down through the spring till it bottoms out, then ground the other end of the wire to the "2079" plate. The horn should blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it? So this is what I got, what I can see from here is that I have part 12 the cam cancelling w/o tilt and all I need is the retainer (13) and pin (15) Correct? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Looks to me like your index marks aren't aligned. They put those on there for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuch96 Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it?So this is what I got, what I can see from here is that I have part 12 the cam cancelling w/o tilt and all I need is the retainer (13) and pin (15) Correct? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Looks to me like your index marks aren't aligned. They put those on there for a reason. Great catch! I've never had the steering wheel off before. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuch96 Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it?So this is what I got, what I can see from here is that I have part 12 the cam cancelling w/o tilt and all I need is the retainer (13) and pin (15) Correct? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Looks to me like your index marks aren't aligned. They put those on there for a reason. Great catch! I've never had the steering wheel off before. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuch96 Posted January 5, 2017 Author Share Posted January 5, 2017 Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it?So this is what I got, what I can see from here is that I have part 12 the cam cancelling w/o tilt and all I need is the retainer (13) and pin (15) Correct? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Looks to me like your index marks aren't aligned. They put those on there for a reason.Great catch! I've never had the steering wheel off before. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I have everything installed and the horn works, but it is very sensitive. When I turn the key to start the truck it constantly honks. Any thoughts? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Pull parts 13, 14, & 15, then re-install the horn with all the parts under the button (4-10) and see if it's still grounding (honking). That will isolate where the ground is making contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Which way do you have the flexplate facing? Try turning it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 The flex plate is part #8 in Hornbrod's diagram. That was my thought, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbuch96 Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 Which way do you have the flexplate facing? Try turning it around. That was the problem, I had put the flex plate in backwards creating it to constantly honk when the truck was on. Thank you for all your help! Here is the finished product Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 My truck has power to the horn circuit even when it's off. Is this a Renix vs HO thing or does one of us have a wiring issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 My truck has power to the horn circuit even when it's off. Is this a Renix vs HO thing or does one of us have a wiring issue? My horns are not ignition switched either - always hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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