gogmorgo Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 How often have you flipped the seat forward into the horn button? Lol. That's how I know it's always hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 How often have you flipped the seat forward into the horn button? Lol. That's how I know it's always hot. Every time I flip the seat forward. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Probably only every other time for me. I finally stopped jumping and smashing my head into the door frame when it happens though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big66440 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 You may also need to grab the spring that goes with the three-spoke wheel, which isn't pictured. It's the one that puts pressure on the steering lock plate. Whether or not it's because of a two-spoke to three-spoke swap I don't know, but when I bought my MJ the horn didn't work because the cancelling cam was missing. I had to find another spring because when I put in the cancelling cam the spring I had was too long and I actually bent the lock plate trying to compress it enough to put it back together. Best bet is to get everything from the same donor, eventually what I wound up doing after having to go back to the yard for more tiny little parts. Interesting,I had a 2 spoke wheel originally and swapped in a 3 spoke and ran into the same problem you're talking about, my lock plate tool actually bent from putting too much pressure on the steering lock plate. I'll grab a spring,lock plate and cancelling cam next time I'm at the JY to see if that fixes my problem, then I'll report to you guys for future reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minuit Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 The lock plate is splined and has to go on a certain way. The spring should compress without much resistance, and definitely shouldn't bend the lock plate. It'll get seized up if the lock plate isn't put on correctly. When I put my tilt column together I had the same problem until I noticed I was putting the lock plate on the wrong way. Canceling cams and I'm almost certain lock plates are specific to tilt vs non-tilt columns as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Yup. Completely different sized spring. I don't know what all had happened before I got in there, (no evidence to suggest it wasn't the original column or wheel) but there was no way in hell I was getting the lock plate back on after I put in the cancelling cam which was missing and why my horn didn't work. The horn relay was also toast, so I suspect someone was inside the column at one point and grabbed the wrong spring when putting it back together, couldn't make it work, so decided they didn't need the cancelling cam anyway and tossed it. The spring that was in there completely compressed was the same length as the junkyard XJ's was at rest. No idea where the other spring came from though, but it obviously wasn't correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dziausas Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 It looks like really struggle for doing this first time. I would better prefer to leave this for professionals, like woodensteeringwheels.com. They seems like one who I could trust my car. What do you think about them, maybe would have a some reviews or other suggest what else i could choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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