Steering wheel swap

[mattbuch96]

Has anyone ever swapped a 2 spoke steering wheel for a 3 spoke? I took off my 2 spoke and now I am concerned I cannot do the conversion any help? Thanks!

 

 

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[Eagle]

Easy swap. The horn mechanisms are different -- make sure you get all the small parts, and print up a diagram showing how they go together.

[mattbuch96]

Thanks, the thing is I don't have a small horn.......

 

 

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[mattbuch96]

Easy swap. The horn mechanisms are different -- make sure you get all the small parts, and print up a diagram showing how they go together.

Do you know where I could find the diagram?

 

 

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[Minuit]

Here's the diagram for the 3-spoke wheel from the FSM.

 

[gogmorgo]

You may also need to grab the spring that goes with the three-spoke wheel, which isn't pictured. It's the one that puts pressure on the steering lock plate. Whether or not it's because of a two-spoke to three-spoke swap I don't know, but when I bought my MJ the horn didn't work because the cancelling cam was missing. I had to find another spring because when I put in the cancelling cam the spring I had was too long and I actually bent the lock plate trying to compress it enough to put it back together. Best bet is to get everything from the same donor, eventually what I wound up doing after having to go back to the yard for more tiny little parts.

[Eagle]

Note that the diagram shows one screw -- there are three.

 

The steering column has an index mark. I hope you didn't obliterate it when pulling the 2-spoke wheel. You'll need it to correctly align the "new" wheel.

[mattbuch96]

Note that the diagram shows one screw -- there are three.

 

The steering column has an index mark. I hope you didn't obliterate it when pulling the 2-spoke wheel. You'll need it to correctly align the "new" wheel.

So I think I have everything

 

 

 

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[gogmorgo]

Looks like you've got the entire button, but do you have everything it pushes? There should be momentary switch poking through the steering lock plate and steering wheel.

[HOrnbrod]

Like gogmorgo said above you're going to need parts 11-13 in the below pic for the grounding wire assembly. The 2-spoke steering wheel does not have these parts inside the column. Best bet is to get them from a 3-spoke wheel donor at the junkyard.

[mattbuch96]

Like gogmorgo said above you're going to need parts 11-13 in the below pic for the grounding wire assembly. The 2-spoke steering wheel does not have these parts inside the column. Best bet is to get them from a 3-spoke wheel donor at the junkyard.

I think I only need 12-13 the extension is on back if the steering wheel already if I am correct. Thank you for your help!

 

 

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[HOrnbrod]

Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it?

[mattbuch96]

Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it?

I will take if off sometime this week, is a slow project with me being in school  :hmm:  I took the cover off my old steering wheel and I was worried that I wouldn't be able to do this conversion. I will take if off and see what is in the column and snap a pic

[mattbuch96]

Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it?

So this is what I got, what I can see from here is that I have part 12 the cam cancelling w/o tilt and all I need is the retainer (13) and pin (15) Correct?

 

 

 

 

 

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[HOrnbrod]

Correct. Stick a bare wire down through the spring till it bottoms out, then ground the other end of the wire to the "2079" plate. The horn should blow.

[Eagle]

 

Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it?

So this is what I got, what I can see from here is that I have part 12 the cam cancelling w/o tilt and all I need is the retainer (13) and pin (15) Correct?

 

 

 

 

 

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Looks to me like your index marks aren't aligned. They put those on there for a reason.

[mattbuch96]

 

 

Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it?

So this is what I got, what I can see from here is that I have part 12 the cam cancelling w/o tilt and all I need is the retainer (13) and pin (15) Correct?

 

 

 

 

 

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Looks to me like your index marks aren't aligned. They put those on there for a reason.

Great catch! I've never had the steering wheel off before.

 

 

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[mattbuch96]

 

 

Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it?

So this is what I got, what I can see from here is that I have part 12 the cam cancelling w/o tilt and all I need is the retainer (13) and pin (15) Correct?

 

 

 

 

 

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Looks to me like your index marks aren't aligned. They put those on there for a reason.

Great catch! I've never had the steering wheel off before.

 

 

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[mattbuch96]

 

 

 

Correct, you have the extension but will need numbers 12-15. Also the cancelling cam is different between the tilt and non-tilt. Have you had your wheel off yet to see what's behind it?

So this is what I got, what I can see from here is that I have part 12 the cam cancelling w/o tilt and all I need is the retainer (13) and pin (15) Correct?

 

 

 

 

 

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Looks to me like your index marks aren't aligned. They put those on there for a reason.

Great catch! I've never had the steering wheel off before.

 

 

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I have everything installed and the horn works, but it is very sensitive. When I turn the key to start the truck it constantly honks. Any thoughts?

 

 

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[HOrnbrod]

Pull parts 13, 14, & 15, then re-install the horn with all the parts under the button (4-10) and see if it's still grounding (honking).  That will isolate where the ground is making contact.

[Minuit]

Which way do you have the flexplate facing? Try turning it around.

[Eagle]

The flex plate is part #8 in Hornbrod's diagram. That was my thought, as well.

[mattbuch96]

Which way do you have the flexplate facing? Try turning it around.

That was the problem, I had put the flex plate in backwards creating it to constantly honk when the truck was on. Thank you for all your help! Here is the finished product

 

 

 

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[gogmorgo]

My truck has power to the horn circuit even when it's off. Is this a Renix vs HO thing or does one of us have a wiring issue?

[HOrnbrod]

My truck has power to the horn circuit even when it's off. Is this a Renix vs HO thing or does one of us have a wiring issue?

 

My horns are not ignition switched either - always hot.