amx'er Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 going through the "stuff" in the garage the other nite--found or just forgot about having, a 1971 amc 304 engine and tran + transfer case from a old cj. has any one in this forum done a v-8 swap in their mj. i did some quick measuring, it seems like it would fit with some mods. just a thought. feed back sure would be interesting!
LocoJeeper Posted July 13, 2007 Posted July 13, 2007 Speaking with absolutely NO experience or even hasty research.... here i go: Check the HP and torque numbers. I don't know if a carbed 304 out ranks a FI'ed 6 cyl. Even if it does you have to take the "does it have enough power to move its own @$$ of its way" question. As in, if there is a HP increase, is it worth it and does it compensate for the extra weight it has to push around. Just my $0.02.
rockhardzj Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 I'd bet a small block could fit. Theres a guy that did a Cummins 4BT swap...
DirtyComanche Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 Theres a guy that did a Cummins 4BT swap... Where? Proof? I didn't think it would fit.
rockhardzj Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 EDIT: Posted below. My buddy did the 4BT swap in his 98 ZJ, it now has a 6" Clayton's Hard Arm kit as well.
DirtyComanche Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 Well, that's a cummins... Sure it's a 4BT, not a 3.3? Either way that's pretty sweet. I didn't think anybody had dropped the cash/time to do it.
rockhardzj Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 Well, that's a cummins... Sure it's a 4BT, not a 3.3? Either way that's pretty sweet. I didn't think anybody had dropped the cash/time to do it. I've seen enough 4BT's and 3.3's that I'd know the difference.4BT all the way. My buddy also has a 6BT he's been debating about what to put it in...
DirtyComanche Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 They're huge... I have one, but it's not going anywhere. Image Not Found
amx'er Posted July 14, 2007 Author Posted July 14, 2007 well the 304 that is stashed away actually has been "built" some what with a high torque cam, roller rockers, 4 bbl, etc...as far as extra weight, what do you think the difference would be? i'm sure the mj could handle it, even if it had to be beefed up. tans and case should not be that different, weight wise. not sure if this would be a worth while project, but it would be interesting!!
DirtyComanche Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 There'll be a difference... Not sure how much, but probably 50-100lbs at most. The 4.0 isn't exactly light. It depends what you want to do with the truck. It is YOUR truck.
feerocknok Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 Small block Chevy and Fords fit. It's the same as a Cherokee. Don't know about a 304. BTW, that Cummins is wicked, and makes me want to sidetrack into a video I found. I'll wait till this thread dies down.
CEThomas Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 What did the 4BT come out of?? Want more info, need more info :D
DansGreyMj Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 What did the 4BT come out of?? Want more info, need more info :D i think theyuse them in bread trucks and delivery vans
feerocknok Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 :offtopic: I can't hold it in any longer! It's a 4bt, apparently just doing a test run to prove that it moves.
rockhardzj Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 What did the 4BT come out of?? Want more info, need more info :D i think they use them in bread trucks and delivery vans Yup.My buddy strips those bread trucks and frito lay trucks all the time for the engines and trannies. If your interested, the price is about 2500 for an engine, I can PM you contact details, or put him in contact with you.
DirtyComanche Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 So, the 4BTs are mechanical injection? A guy could probably get a lot of power out of one for very little money.
rockhardzj Posted July 14, 2007 Posted July 14, 2007 I'm almost positive they are, but I can double check.
beaterjeep Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 In this whole thread, I'm actually almost amazed that no one mentioned possum. He has a 350 in his MJ. And I know there's at least one more guy that has a 350 in his as well. There's also a guy on here that has a ford 302 in his.
DirtyComanche Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 I got totally sidetracked by the 4BT. S10eater has a 350 as well. Seems to fit pretty good. And there is at least one guy on here with an AMC 360, not finished but looked promising.
rockhardzj Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 If anybody wants to pay off my new engine and tranny, I'll put it in my MJ for a little while... 4.7L V8/545RFE tranny out of a 99 WJ.... That could be my birthday present... :D I only owe $800 on it....
feerocknok Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 If anybody wants to pay off my new engine and tranny, I'll put it in my MJ for a little while... 4.7L V8/545RFE tranny out of a 99 WJ.... That could be my birthday present... :D I only owe $800 on it.... How bout a loan and I charge you 15% interest?
rockhardzj Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 3.75% and you got a deal. It would sure be a fun thing to do... It's actual purpose will be in my future bruiser.
beaterjeep Posted July 16, 2007 Posted July 16, 2007 I got a better proposition for ya Joel. I pay off the motor and tranny and I put it in MY MJ until you pay me back. :brows:
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