Knucklehead97 Posted June 26, 2015 Author Share Posted June 26, 2015 Bought a brand new flywheel because I figured mine was burnt. And I was on my way to get the puller when you posted that... but then i get it home and it doesnt even fit in the pilot bearing. Anyone know why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 is your pilot bearing still intact? I found that mine was obliterated when I took my 88 apart. only the outer race remained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeep Driver Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Bought a brand new flywheel because I figured mine was burnt. And I was on my way to get the puller when you posted that... but then i get it home and it doesnt even fit in the pilot bearing. Anyone know why? I'm sorry, I assumed the hole for the pilot bearing was in the fly wheel. Fill the hole with grease. Find a bolt that just barely fits the hole. Give is a light whack with a hammer and the grease will force the bearing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadan Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Pilot bearing is in the crank. It's a 2 piece unit that will be in there good. I used a puller that I got from Harbor Freight and a bit of penetrating fluid. It took me over 30 minutes, one blood blister, and two very numb from impact hands before the inner part of that 2 piece pilot bearing came out....(it's not supposed to lol). I used a larger puller end and got the outer to come out though.Now the grease and bolt is one of a few methods for hydraulic removal and can be very effective. Another famous one is wet toilet paper lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrawombat Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 I just went through this whole exercise with my 92 last week. I used the grease trick to force the pilot bearing out and it worked well. Messy, but effective. It was only after I was done cleaning up the mess that I realized I had purchased a cheap slide hammer kit from Horrible Freight several years ago that would have done the trick without the mess (http://www.harborfreight.com/15-piece-slide-hammer-and-puller-set-5469.html). I really need to go through and do an inventory on my tools... As for the fluid I used Pennzoil Synchromesh. While many have used regular 10W30 motor oil and say they have had no problems, I would recommend against it. I used 10W30 on my 91YJ with an AX15 and the transmission got noticeably worse as time went on. Pennzoil Synchromesh states that their manual transmission fluid is safe for yellow metals with an API GL-3 performance rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 The inside ring of the pilot bearing is still intact. But the bearings inside the ring have all fell out. What is actually behind the pilot bearing? Because I tried to break the middle part loose and the little bearings flew everywhere. Some fell behind the pilot bearing. Just hope they won't mess up the engine, ya know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 And when breaking the flywheel bolts and retightening them I was going to have someone with a wrench on the crankshaft bolt in the front of the engine to keep it from spinning. WhTs the chances of this breaking the crankshaft bolt loose instead of the flywheel bolts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrawombat Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Use this trick instead: Image Not Found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 Mods if you could please delete all of those replies above other than the first one, I would appreciate it. My phone messed up and posted multiple times and then I replied with a shorter version because at first it said it couldnt post the first version. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 Use this trick instead: Image Not Found I like that idea. Allows me to do it by myself as well. Would it be bad to leave the new flywheel mounted underneath the truck during bad weather? Got a storm coming but was going to try and get some work done on it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 I tried the bread method (same as grease. Thought it would work better cause bread is thicker) and I could NOT get that sucker out... I got a bolt that I thought was tight enough (literally could not find anything bigger that wasnt to big.) And the bread still forced itself out instead of the pilot bearing coming out.. I wish that the pilot bearing wasnt still intact. Then I could just use the puller I rented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 in what way is your puller failing? what's happening? 2 jaw or 3 jaw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 Its a 2 jaw slide hammer adapter one. And the only reason its not working is cause its to big to fit it, I have it fully collapsed and it won't fit through the pilot hole. If the inner ring of the pilot bearing wasnt still there then it would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertmike Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 On the puller I used I had to grind a little off the ends so it would fit inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 try a different one. :thumbsup: the first one I tried didn't work, but I got a 3 jaw one that did the trick. don't ask me where I got it from, it was a decade ago. :( I'd guess autozone, but that might be where I got the one that didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 harbor freight has one. might even be the one I used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 I'm going to try using just one jaw and fitting something beside it to keep it in. Or I'm going to file down a small section of the inside of the pilot bearing so I can fit it in and use both. I would prefer to not grind down a loaner tool just because. I hate having to drive to town again to get another tool. I live 25 minutes from any parts store! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 that is not likely to succeed. :( the HF one is $23 http://www.harborfreight.com/3-jaw-pilot-bearing-puller-4876.htmland they will send it to your door. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 just went out to the barn and I can confirm that is the one that worked for me. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 well pilot bearing and slave are out! When I removed the slave this rubber seal came with it... please tell me this isn't the transmission input shaft seal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 well pilot bearing and slave are out! When I removed the slave this rubber seal came with it... please tell me this isn't the transmission input shaft seal? Phone double posted again. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 Slave is installed. I pushed the retaining lockwasher on as far as I could. But the slave is still really wobbly on the shaft. Like it leans downward and lays on the shaft. Is this normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrawombat Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Slave is installed. I pushed the retaining lockwasher on as far as I could. But the slave is still really wobbly on the shaft. Like it leans downward and lays on the shaft. Is this normal? Yea the slave isn't a tight fit. The retaining lockwasher is there just to keep the slave from moving all around when you reinstall the transmission. I installed a slave cylinder from a LuK clutch kit and it was the same way. Have about 100 miles on the truck since the install and no issues to speak of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 Luk is what I got. And also flywheel is in with Permatex blue on the bolts torqued to about 107 ft pounds (factory calls for 105 but I added a little bit on top for good measures,) now about to throw the pilot bearing in! Also my rear main is DEFINITELY the cause of my oil leak. Next project! Oh and just so yall know, flywheels hurt when they fall and land on your pinky finger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knucklehead97 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 The clutch is in! Got the bolts torqued to 40 FT pounds. I did not use loctite, is that okay? And secondly before I put the transmission in... my pressure plate did not sit flush until I got the bolts all the way tightened. Is this normal? Don't want to have to pull the transmission again, so a quick reply would be very nice! It wasn't hard to tighten down at all. Until the last pull for the 40 pound mark. Just struck me odd that the plate didnt sit flush at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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