benjy_26 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Hello all. As my MJ build progresses, I've come to the point where I would like some more lift for the rear end. Currently, I'm running 2-2.5 inches of lift in the front (am thinking of adding another inch). In the rear, I'm still running the stock 2wd SporTruck leaves. Now, what I would like out of this vehicle is kind of a jack of all trades. The MJ will be my main camping/lomg range camping/expedition vehicle as well as being able to be driven on a daily basis, have the ability to haul a decent load, AND still be able to keep up (somewhat) with my ZJ in the high speed desert tracks we often wheel out here. Right now, I have Rancho springs in the front and SkyJacker Hydro 5000 shocks all around. They work very, very well for what I want right now, I would just like to stop my 31's rubbing my flares when turning in reverse, and need to stop dragging my hitch when crossing through ditches. I've looked at General Spring and Hell Creek. My question is, which would be better for my needs, the HC 3" lift pack, or the General Sprin Metric Ton pack combined with some good quality shackles? Thanks in advance for all of your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 IMHO a spring pack that provides the needed ride height is always better than messing with lift shackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasbulliwagen Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I agree. If you're looking for s little more in the front still I would go with the 3inch springs. And for what you're doing to keep ride and angles good in the front you may want to look into control arm drop brackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjy_26 Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 Is the HC 3" lift pack good for loads, or will I flatten it out in quick fashion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87MJTIM Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I put the Gen Spr on mine. I gave the rear about 3" of lift. I put 2" spacers up front. I now has a rake that I want to correct with new spings in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 An extra isolator up front gives about .75" lift for just a few bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhickman Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I have the same question as the OP, if money is not an issue, is there a "hands down" best quality rear leaf pack for a 3" lift? I just bought my first MJ this morning (88 4WD, Auto, 4.0) and mistakenly believed I could just go to my favorite vendor (DPG Offroad) and just order a complete 3" Old Man Emu lift for it like I did my XJ's but he said OME didn't make a complete spring pack for the MJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjy_26 Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 I wish OME made leaves for MJ's!! I have a full set of their coils on my ZJ and they're fantastic. 90mph in the dunes feels verg, very stable with OME springs. So... I measured my front end today. It seems that the springs I have on the front have lifted my vehicle a bit OVER 3 inches, despite bei g advertised as 2.5". I think they were meant for a heavuer 4.0 equipped XJ vs my flyweight 2.5 MJ. I'm keeping the front end as-is, probably just going to get adjustable arms to kick my front axle forward a bit (it only rubs at the trailing edge of the flare). With that said, would you guys recommend the HC 3" packs, or just go with the General Springs Metric ton set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornindesert Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 The HC 3" was not an option when I ordered Metic tons from Joe at General Springs. You should expect some lift over your stocker but may not quite get 'a bit OVER 3 inches' to match the front. That question aside, they are really sweet heavy duty springs and come with the Military Wrap. I thought they were a pretty good value for the buck. If your trying to nail 3-4" lift in the back, might be better choice to go HC. There's a JKS adjustable shackle, but they're not cheap. The Chevy drop shackle will probably be too much with the GS MTs. As in 6-7 inches total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvd Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Just got my packs from general springs installed and only got about 2 inch of lift with them. I have a hardly noticeable rake with my original coils up front, a bit disappointed. Nothing chevy drop shackle can't fix, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 The OME stuff seems to always give more lift than advertised. I got a full 3" up front with the OME 630 coils, and also 3" with the GS MT springs. This was about 5-6 years ago. The GS MT springs settled about an inch in about a year, then a set of Teraflex greasable shackles brought it back. The OME front coils have not settled at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjy_26 Posted June 13, 2014 Author Share Posted June 13, 2014 Cool deal. I think I'm going to go with the GS springs.I don't mind a bit of Arizona rake, to be honest. Was it the GS, or HC springs that have the military wrap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhickman Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Just got my packs from general springs installed and only got about 2 inch of lift with them. I have a hardly noticeable rake with my original coils up front, a bit disappointed. Nothing chevy drop shackle can't fix, I guess. Josh, can you clarify for me? If you just lifted the rear 2" over stock I would think you would have a very noticeable rake as the stock 88 Comanche I just bought has a significant factory rake to it. I'm trying to figure out how much to lift the back to end up with a minimal rake when I lift the front 3". Any input would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvd Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I also just had an 8.8 installed (SUA) using the ruff stuff u bolt eliminator kit don't know if that would make a difference, shouldn't. I was surprised when the guy who installed it told me and when I first saw it. Before the rear was really low compared to the front and now it's just a couple inches higher. I really don't think I can get away with 3" coils without making the back (look) lower again, thus installing adjustable shackles or Chevy drop brackets. All I want is 3 inches of lift and then will trim and bump stop accordingly to fit tires. When I bought the packs and talked with Joe at GS he said to expect 2-4 inches of lift, guess I got 2 inch springs. Oh and even with new shocks they are really soft, the flex is amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhickman Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Thanks Josh, that makes sense now. I just bought my first Comanche, a bone stock 88 on Wednesday evening and I want to lift it 3" in front and only bring the back up until I have just a slight rake. I'm thinking those 2" GS leafs would be perfect because I would estimate it's sitting with about a 1.5" factory rake now. That would leave me with a 1/2" rake if I did my math right which would be just about what I'm looking for. Do you mind sharing what you paid for your GS leafs and a part # if you have it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvd Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I bought them last February with the first group buy and paid 370 with shipping. I only saved the confirmation email so I don't know the part #. Call and talk to Joe tell him what you want and he'll hook you up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87MJTIM Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Code #GSC 571 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejim42 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Will HC metric ton pack give my any lift? If so how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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