91Pioneer Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 OK good news bad news, I need help... Bad news #1 I forgot to remove the washer after I removed the crank bolt, then starting using the remover tool but that messed up the washer slightly since I was cranking on it. I'll need to go buy a new washer, no big deal. Good news #1 The balancer came off nice without removing anything but my skid plate and the splash shield. No need to remove rad, fan, etc., none of that. In hindsight I probably didn't even need to put the truck on ramps to do this job. Good news #2 The balancer was rubbing on the timing chain cover but luckily it didn't dig through, it just "scored" the cover, so the damage is minimal and I don't need to replace the cover. Bad news #2 Here's where I need help.... boy I'm struggling to get the front crank seal (on the timing cover) off. I tried using a screwdriver, I tried using the paint lid tool trick, and I bought the seal remover tool. None of them will budge the damn thing. Any ideas on how to get the stupid thing out of there? And how do I get the old woodruff key out of there? I put some vice grips on there to try and pull it and it wouldn't budge. Yeah yeah I know I butchered things trying to get the seal out... :mad:
onlyinajeep726 Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Why do you need to remove the old woodruff key? The new balancer should still work with the old woodruff key...
91Pioneer Posted March 29, 2014 Author Posted March 29, 2014 A punch and hammer. For the seal or woodruff key? Why do you need to remove the old woodruff key? The new balancer should still work with the old woodruff key... Good question. The new balancer comes with a new key so I just kind of assumed I need to change it. When I think about it it's easier to just leave that one alone. Consider that done :thumbsup:
91Pioneer Posted March 29, 2014 Author Posted March 29, 2014 I found a trick on YouTube for removing a stubborn seal... drill a small hole and put a screw in there and pull. Cool idea, I might have to try that... but I'm done with this for the night, I'll tackle the project again tomorrow afternoon.
91Pioneer Posted March 29, 2014 Author Posted March 29, 2014 p.s. I forgot to mention that I used the old trick of putting a socket & breaker bar on the crank bolt and cranking the engine to break the bolt loose, it worked wonderfully. It sounded terrible (I only cranked it for about 1/10 second, just a blip) but it worked great.
KYMJ Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Sorry, punch and hammer for key, but you've already figured that out.
jimoshel Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Block off all the crank case vents. Start the engine and when the pressure builds up enough it will blow the seal out.
Jeep Driver Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 Block off all the crank case vents. Start the engine and when the pressure builds up enough it will blow the seal out. He may not think you are joking.
ftpiercecracker1 Posted March 29, 2014 Posted March 29, 2014 IF you can drill a hole the the lip of the seal that may do the trick, otherwise don't waste your time. It's a major PITA but it is worth it in the long run to just remove the cover all together. If not you could end up damaging the opening and/or the deal surface . . . . . . . like I did. Thank God I had a spare.
91Pioneer Posted March 29, 2014 Author Posted March 29, 2014 Argh, it's gone from bad to worse. I tried the drilling a hole and using a screw to pull it out trick a few times and it just tore the front metal part of the seal. So what needs to come off to remove the timing chain cover? I may just take it off... Someone stop me from pushing the truck out to the street and lighting a match... :mad:
Jeep Driver Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Stick a strew driver in it cross ways and give the handle a good whack whit the palm of your hand.
91Pioneer Posted March 30, 2014 Author Posted March 30, 2014 OK I didn't torch my truck. Long story short I read on another forum a tip to try and punch the seal inward toward the crank so it "loosens" the seal against the cover. When I did that I was able to take the biggest screwdriver I have and pry it out then. So I guess I was just trying to not damage the timing cover too much before. In the end I think it's all good. I picked up some black RTV, I'm going to smear a little bit on the seal where it fits into the cover to help prevent any future leaks. And I put the new seal in my deep freeze to help make it a tiny bit smaller before putting it back in :thumbsup:
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