Strokermjcomanche Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Was wondering if someone had a wiring diagram for integrating both harnesses together so both turn signals work with the brake on . due to the fact that one has independent turn signals and the other doesnt thanks in advance Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee21490 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Was wondering if someone had a wiring diagram for integrating both harnesses together so both turn signals work with the brake on . due to the fact that one has independent turn signals and the other doesnt thanks in advance Adam Do you have the 89 or 95 steering column? http://comancheclub.com/topic/18588-xj-dash-harness-to-rear-mj-harness-wiring-guides/ The top chart should work, If you have your stock steering column. If you swapped in the 95's column, Check the second to last post - On page two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 It has the 95 column Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I did mine the easy way and separated the bulbs in the back. I have one bulb for brake and one for turn now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Yes blue mj id thought about doing that but it just wouldn't look right (I have OCD and it would annoy the ---- out of me threes gotta be a way to make them both work I have yet to read the link that lee posted thanks any other ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee21490 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Yes blue mj id thought about doing that but it just wouldn't look right (I have OCD and it would annoy the ---- out of me threes gotta be a way to make them both work I have yet to read the link that lee posted thanks any other ideas Take off your Mutli-Function / Turn Signal / Hazard / Call it w/e you want switch, And run your brake switch straight to pin #14 I had the same issue ages ago, Took me a ton of searching to figure this out I did mine the easy way and separated the bulbs in the back. I have one bulb for brake and one for turn now. How is re-doing the back lights, easier then running a single cable two feet into an empty pinout? O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Thanks Lee I read the post just wanted to make sure that everything will work as it should after I do this . They won't interfere with eachother? I was thinking that it might backfeed through the wires if not I really appreciate the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee21490 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Thanks Lee I read the post just wanted to make sure that everything will work as it should after I do this . They won't interfere with eachother? I was thinking that it might backfeed through the wires if not I really appreciate the help Everything will work how its intended. That pinout brings the brake-lights through the turn signal switch, So it functions properly. Something like that. Did it myself ages ago, Never had a problem ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Yes blue mj id thought about doing that but it just wouldn't look right (I have OCD and it would annoy the ---- out of me threes gotta be a way to make them both work I have yet to read the link that lee posted thanks any other ideas What wouldn't "look" right? Personally, I think the MJ setup is idiotic. The 4-way flashers completely disable both the turn signals AND the brake lights. Now that's just plain dumb -- and Jeep obviously knew how to do it differently since they managed to keep the 4-ways separate from the brakes in the XJ. I think it's much safer to have the hazards and brake lights separate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokermjcomanche Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 As I said I have OCD certain things have to work right for me or else every time I get in and drive it that's all I can think about . I know there's other vehicles out there that have the same setup as the Comanche and the xj .if I had the xj I would want the xj to work like the xj . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 So this is why the hazard lights go solid whenever I step on the brakes? I kinda had plans to tackle that issue within the next month or so... but I guess it's not an issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee21490 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 So this is why the hazard lights go solid whenever I step on the brakes? I kinda had plans to tackle that issue within the next month or so... but I guess it's not an issue... No, You have a wire crossed or incorrectly done.. Even with your foot on the brakes, Your flashers should still flash normaly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue XJ Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Yes blue mj id thought about doing that but it just wouldn't look right (I have OCD and it would annoy the ---- out of me threes gotta be a way to make them both work I have yet to read the link that lee posted thanks any other ideas Take off your Mutli-Function / Turn Signal / Hazard / Call it w/e you want switch, And run your brake switch straight to pin #14 I had the same issue ages ago, Took me a ton of searching to figure this out I did mine the easy way and separated the bulbs in the back. I have one bulb for brake and one for turn now.How is re-doing the back lights, easier then running a single cable two feet into an empty pinout? O.o I didn't say it was easier. Just another option. Plus he would maintain a functioning brake light on both sides as well as a turn signal this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogmorgo Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 So this is why the hazard lights go solid whenever I step on the brakes? I kinda had plans to tackle that issue within the next month or so... but I guess it's not an issue... No, You have a wire crossed or incorrectly done.. Even with your foot on the brakes, Your flashers should still flash normaly. K, thanks. Doesn't really surprise me though.. The tail light harness is a bit of a botched attempt at a rats nest, but beyond that it seemed to be working normally so I didn't really want to get into it. But a recent electrical fire has me a little paranoid about bad wiring. But now I know I need to do more than reconstruct what is there. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 How would I separate the turn signals and the stop/running lights on the MJ harness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Swampy said: How would I separate the turn signals and the stop/running lights on the MJ harness? have you checked the link in my signature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Pete M said: have you checked the link in my signature? The DIY link? I have been searching the forum and everything is either pre-95 or 97+. I havent found anything on 96 xj harness. I might do a trial by fire and figure out. I just trying to decided which would be easier, extending the xj harness or splicing the xj harness into the mj oem tail light harness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 36 minutes ago, Swampy said: The DIY link? I have been searching the forum and everything is either pre-95 or 97+. I haven't found anything on 96 xj harness. I might do a trial by fire and figure out. I just trying to decided which would be easier, extending the xj harness or splicing the xj harness into the mj oem tail light harness I did some poking around the interwebs and it appears that 96 really is a mix of 95 and 97. can't find anything that definitively states the rear harness uses one or the other year's colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 @Pete M that's the conclusion I have come up with. I think it would be easier to adapt the xj harnees to the comanche tails but idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I mean, it's still just a matter of splicing the XJ harness into the MJ rear harness connector. you just gotta figure out which wire is which. :) I would start with the 95 info and see how much matches up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, Pete M said: I mean, it's still just a matter of splicing the XJ harness into the MJ rear harness connector. you just gotta figure out which wire is which. :) I would start with the 95 info and see how much matches up. Do I have to use the pass. side tailight harness at all of the cherokee or can everything be done through the driver side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I guess I'm not too familiar with how the XJ routes its harness. where does the XJ stuff split into left and right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 In the xj it splits under the rear bench or as it would in the mj at the back of the cab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I would retrieve as much of the XJ harness as I could and see if it reaches to the MJ's rear harness connector. If not, than you'll need to extend it. but then you can splice it into that MJ connector and still retain the ability to separate the taillight harness in the future. beyond that the link in my sig should have how other owners have spliced in to make the turns signals work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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