Comanche County Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Well I spotted this old Deer Lease CJ, there's a ton of these ratty Jeeps in TX. I stop to ask about it thinking perhaps there's money in a resale. The owner is a PTSD ridden vet, much like me, albeit from an older generation. So we got along great. I mention I've got a 51' Willys CJ3 I'm trying to get going and I'd really like to stumble on some old Willys stuff, especially a PTO with some attachments.....we haggle on this 74' POS some more and he finally says, "make me an offer on this, and I'll throw in the remaining Willys stuff I've got." but he won't tell me what he's got until I buy the CJ. I offer two bills, he says three, and says "I've got some things you want that I'll throw in." I say "250", he says "that's a deal". So, then we go to the back pasture and look at two different Willys Super Hurricane flathead sixes, one with a T80? and D18, the other has a T90 and D18, two Willys truck frames - a one-ton with a bed, and a bare half ton frame with D44s and 4.88 gears, a box full of 60's NOS Willys brake parts, and two PTOs. One is buried in a trailer and we couldn't find it, the other is pictured below. A Tulsa PTO. Looks like its the style that bolts to the side of a transmission for a front driven PTO, and not the D18 TC driven PTO I was hoping for. We'll see what the other one is tomorrow when I pick everything up. I figure if I can't sell the Willys stuff to Willys fanatics, then I've got well over 250 worth of scrap. The 74' CJ5 is a pasture runner with a great running 232, T14 or 15 tranny, D20, and a 3.73 geared D30 and D44 - easy sell at more than $250 for the drive train alone. Then the PTOs -- I'm hoping they have value......here's the slap me part. I recently had a dream about this guy and his Jeep junk, hard to explain but it happened just as I had dreamed. Plus, these old Jeeps are kinda easy to work on and I'm starting to expand on my Jeep addiction,,,,,so someone please slap me. Life was simple and good when it was limited to MJs, XJs, and ZJs. :doh: Anyone know anything about old Tulsa PTOs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camjeep3 Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 :no: slap you? what for!?!?!?! you are doing what is right :D sounds like you got a good score. and those old cjs are fun. My buddy had an early 5 we played with for a while but he got rid of it... wish he hadnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimoshel Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 All of the wifes' grand dads' drilling equipment had Tulsa winches on them. Real power houses. I once bent the mast on the power unit trying to pull a stuck pump, with a 20 ton Tulsa. If I hadn't been his grand-son-in-law he probably would have killed me. Got some pics,film, not digital. If I get a chance to scan them I'll post them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Slap or not slap yourself mate. You're experienced enough, mature enough, and for sure intelligent enough to make the "correct" decision based on where you're at. :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Yeah for some reason, old CJs with all the farm implements are maxing out my cool meter, almost as much as an MJ. http://www.farmjeep.com/cj5barnfind.html http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/Siblings/Caprio3A.html p.s. Mods, I'm sorry for dirtying up the board with this CJ nonsense. I swear, my first love remains with the MJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 the Pub is for anything and everything. :thumbsup: especially if it's Jeep related. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOrnbrod Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 the Pub is for anything and everything. :thumbsup: especially if it's Jeep related. :D For sure. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 the Pub is for anything and everything. :thumbsup: especially if it's Jeep related. :D For sure. :thumbsup: I know, but you can only cheat on your first MJ for so long before she gets mad at you. Its like trying to date a Puerto Rican girl and a Cuban girl at the same time. Something bad will eventually happen. I only stopped hoping it had a Dauntless V6 in it....instead it had a 232, the fat girl of Jeep motors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 All of the wifes' grand dads' drilling equipment had Tulsa winches on them. Real power houses. I once bent the mast on the power unit trying to pull a stuck pump, with a 20 ton Tulsa. If I hadn't been his grand-son-in-law he probably would have killed me. Got some pics,film, not digital. If I get a chance to scan them I'll post them. Yeah I found a couple of links talking about old Tulsa 20K and 30K PTO winches. Its hard to believe these straight cut gears could handle that kinda of load. Especially considering the metallurgy of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exxon Valdez Jeep Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 if you got the Jeep itch, scratch it! make it feel good!!!! :banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Looks like this is the place: http://www.team-twg.com/en/default.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incommando Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Taking the CJ plunge myself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share Posted September 26, 2011 Yeah, seems the older they are the easier they are to work on. But it can get tricky if you're trying to do it right. There's a lot of end play measuring, shimming, etc on the old closed knuckle and tapered shaft axles you don't have to do with newer axles. Also, try finding a Willys flathead valve spring compressor or a hub puller. They're not exactly hanging on the shelf at Auto Zone. Of all the junk I got from him, this tailgate is my fav. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMCJeepMJ Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Deja vu? Something has changed in the Matrix! The first thing I thought of when I read deja vu: Its the Mind from Monty Python season 2 ep 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 The video wouldn't play for me.... anyway, here's what that CJ looks like now....gentlemen, if you've never rattle canned a Jeep, I highly suggest you do so. Its a lot of fun. The inside of the tub and tool box is too rusted to deal with.....I'm already doing a frame up on a 51' CJ3A. I'm not going into such depth with this one. But, I did wire wheel the entire outside of the tub, hood, and fenders down to bare metal, primer and rattle can it with a very rare breed of paint that is very hard to come by! You can only find it at every Walmart, Lowe's, Home Depot and Ace Hardware in North America - its made by a company called Rustoleum, pronounced: "Reest, ahh', Leeee, Um", I think its French, perhaps a Scandinavian Company - you know those Swiss, they always make good stuff. Good luck finding this rare paint. It comes in a very technically difficult to operate cylindrical applicator that only the purely destitute know how to properly apply. The seats are out of an equally extremely rare - one Isuzu Trooper II. Here are the magnificent results which John the Baptist would shave his beard for: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comanche County Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 Did anyone notice the Rose shaped cracks in the passenger side windshield? Or the Dove of Peace distinctly outlined in windshield cracks on the driver's side? I feel so much better when I sit behind the wheel of this Jeep. It does something to me,,,,It magically takes all my troubles away. I'm selling this for no less than 10 Grand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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