88swampedmj Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 well i got a ba10 to swap in until i get the money for a ax15.. are there any tricks i need to know about ..ill be swapping the ba in this weekend.. and don't wanna catch any suprises..
Rokhound Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 Those top two bolts on the tranny are a b!tch and there e-10 or e-12. I ended up pulling the motor and tranny and took a hammer and chisel, grinder and drill and a 6 pack to them to get them out. So i hope that you don't twist them off like i did
Pete M Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 E-12. I highly recommend replacing them with long studs. They help with putting the trans back in. :D
88swampedmj Posted December 13, 2006 Author Posted December 13, 2006 hmm just long threaded bolts with no heads?
mjeff87 Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 Yeah, just plain studs. They greatly help to align the tranny when reinstalling, too. Once it's on, just run a couple nuts onto the studs to secure the top of the bell, along with the other bolts/nuts. Or you could use regular hex head bolts, but you loose the alignment assist. Either way, don't reuse the torx head bolts.... Jeff
88swampedmj Posted December 13, 2006 Author Posted December 13, 2006 OMG... the tranny is held on with torques head bolts!!!!!!!!!!! the one thing i HATE about jeep is torque head bolts STUPID STUPID idea in my mind they strip sooo freakin easy and then your screwd... horrible idea from jeep
mjeff87 Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 ...and if you have a 2.5L, the starter bolts (factory) are E12 also. They were the first things I swapped out for hex heads :D
88swampedmj Posted December 13, 2006 Author Posted December 13, 2006 hmm i think mine has been switched before i just looked at the bellhousing on the tranny thats on the jeep now. it has studs/bolts like you guys were sayin to be able to line it up ... so where were those torx bolts supposed to be? was i missunderstanding ?.. either way iam glad theres no torx bolts on the tranny.. thats where i thought you were sayin they were. Image Not Found
88swampedmj Posted December 13, 2006 Author Posted December 13, 2006 hmm that sucks, what about linkages and stuff? any special ways of gettin them off? or what not to dos?
88swampedmj Posted December 13, 2006 Author Posted December 13, 2006 could i just unbolt the tranny from the bellhousing? making it easier and faster??
sinnaevd Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 i imagin the answer would be yes, but u may run into alignmen issues later when puttung the next tranny back in. it would probably make it eaier to get the bellhousing off though if you want to go that route? even with my 4.0 out and the pukegoat attached i still couldnt get the damn thing off....
88swampedmj Posted December 13, 2006 Author Posted December 13, 2006 so i guess ill try to just take only the tranny off... after hearing how hard it is to get the bellhousings off manches... i don't wanna waste time... this is my DD so i gotta get to work monday.
Pete M Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 Unfortunately, you can't remove the tranny from the bellhousing without removing the bellhousing from the engine. The bolts are only accessible from inside the bellhousing.
88swampedmj Posted December 13, 2006 Author Posted December 13, 2006 my gosh.. this just gets worse and worse... i hope i can get it done my sunday night then..
mjeff87 Posted December 13, 2006 Posted December 13, 2006 It's bad, but not that bad. To access the two top bolts, pull the crossmember and let the whole driveline hang by the motor mounts (watch the fan blades so they don't contact the radiator). The back end will sag down far enough for you to cobble together about a mile worth of extensions to reach them. Alternately, you may be able to get to them via the cutout in the floorpan where the shifter comes thru...remove the large plastic/rubber dust boot and you should be able to get to them with a few less extensions :D Jeff
88swampedmj Posted December 13, 2006 Author Posted December 13, 2006 oh thanks for the tip... any others will help iam doin this swap friday after work so until then any little tips help greatly :D
mjeff87 Posted December 14, 2006 Posted December 14, 2006 Unless you have a tranny jack, I'd pull the TC off seperately, then drop the trans. If you don't have one, get yerself a ratcheting box end wrench (Sears has them for about $7 ea) for the TC bolts. You'll be glad you did. When reinstalling the tranny, put it in 3rd gear. That way, you can twist the output shaft back and forth to help align the input shaft splines with the clutch disc. Don't forget to reconnect the CPS when you're done, either ;) Jeff
88swampedmj Posted December 14, 2006 Author Posted December 14, 2006 sounds good and my dad has the craftsman ratcheting wrenches so they will help alot
500 MJ Posted December 14, 2006 Posted December 14, 2006 Yah, it shouldnt cause you any trouble. I never thought of using studs on the top of the bellhousing. I put regular hex head bolts back in there anyway. One other thing of caution. If you use a floor jack to support the tranny as it is coming down off the truck, make sure you take the fan off of the engine. Tilting the whole setup down gets the fan blades mighty close to the radiator. Once you get the crossmember off, you can tilt everything down with a jack. Then you can get over top of the tranny and with alot of extentions on your ratchet you can get to the bolts near the top of the bellhousing. Just make sure you chain the whole setup to the jack before you start loosening things. They aren't the lightest things in the world and no one wants one on their chest.
88swampedmj Posted December 17, 2006 Author Posted December 17, 2006 i got the old ba10 out and was putting the new one in.. it shifted great before i put it in then.. i went to bolt it all to the motor.. and now it seems its stuck in 3rd gear someone said to put it in 3rd to spin the spline so it will go better.. well now its just stuck in 3rd all the time. i just pulled it out , took off the transfercase and it still won't move... idk what to do!
Pete M Posted December 17, 2006 Posted December 17, 2006 Use a big hammer and show no mercy!! My Peugeot once got stuck in second for no particular reason and when it looked like a tow was inevitable anyways, I pushed hard on it with my foot. It popped out with no great fanfare and I never had that issue again. :dunno:
88swampedmj Posted December 17, 2006 Author Posted December 17, 2006 GOT IT ~~~~~~~~~ :nuts: :nuts: stuck a screwdriver in there and CLICK now it shifts....
Oizarod115 Posted December 17, 2006 Posted December 17, 2006 fun... doesnt it suck that you were almost there... stopped turned around... and turns out you could've done it while it was still halfway done... :roll: hate it when that happens.
88swampedmj Posted December 18, 2006 Author Posted December 18, 2006 haha yea i was pretty frustrated.. then after i got it in it was shifting fine.. and i went to start it and NOTHING!.. i forgot to put that sensor at the top left of the bellhousing... what does it do? what is it?....whatever it is it kept my truck from starting.......then when it did start i was drivin home and had horrible chattering everytime i pushed the clutch but it stopped pretty quickly....... "only in a jeep" hahaha
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